2aHawaii
General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1voyager1 on June 30, 2013, 10:04:08 AM
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By Aug 1st we'll be leaving AK beginning our road trip through Canada and the Western States.
We'll probably be on the road for at least a month before actually boarding the flight to HI.
Instead of shipping a crate or two of household goods,
we've decided to divest ourselves of the major portion of our possessions and simply Parcel Post a number of boxes of "treasures" that we want to keep.
We'll be setting up a forwarding mail drop/storage unit before mailing the packages just before leaving.
We may arrive before the shipment arrives, maybe not.
That does not appear to be a problem as far as those goods are concerned.
Now, as far as my firearms are concerned, after doing some checking I think there should be no problem with mailing my two rifles to myself at the mail drop/storage unit.
Any comments on that?
What I'm not completely clear on is being able to mail a handgun to myself.
I cannot find anything that specifically says that I can do it like it says that I can mail a rifle.
Will I be required to send it through an FFL, or do the same rules as for rifles apply?
Bringing it with me and transporting it through Canada is not an option.
I understand that I could use UPS or FedEx to send it.
I would rather send it by USPS.
I am given to understand that UPS and FedEx's rates to transport firearms, especially handguns, are almost abusive.
I am having to divest myself of all my ammo, primers and gun powder.
I do not see any way of being able to send them over.
I'm having a bad case of separation anxiety.
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Hawaii will welcome you and your family!!! You just have to worry about the menehunies, the night marchers, and the white lady!!! But for your rifle being shipped, FFL is safest. :shaka:
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Bring me an In-N-Out Burger T-Shirt when u roll through Cali :shaka: Have a Safe journey.
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Why you would leave a liberty loving patriotic state and move to the socialist republic of Hawaii.....I'll never know. But if you must....you should just call a local FFL and work it out with them. If they take a shipment from a non FFL then you can send everything to them for a nominal transfer fee per firearm; maybe 20$. This way you can pick them all up and register them at once. If you're moving to the big island, no big deal otherwise, but if you're going to Oahu, you don't want to have to make multiple trips to HPD firearms reg.
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It is best to bring the Firearms with you.
If you send them to a FFL (cant send them to yourself) you will have to get a permit to aquire which requires pistol or hunting class requirements
and the dreadded 2 week wait. If you carry them with you. you just need to go to HPD on Beretania and register them within 48 hours of your arrival.
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What I did when I moved was ship the long guns to myself, and bring the pistols with me on the airplane. Obviously if you have too many, this isn't going to work. Then you'll have to go SpeedTek's route and get a permit to acquire.
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i did pretty much the same thing as 2a when i moved back here from NC.
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Not sure if you're military, but I flew with my guns into Hawaii and charge the extra fees to my TONO number.
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hawaii is a great place to live, welcome
aloha
-branz
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I have decided how I'll do it.
2ahawaii has hit on the head.
I'll mail the rifles to myself c/o the mail drop/storage unit.
Then, I'll FedEx the Redhawk to myself c/o either my brother or son down in Washington.
I'll pick it up from them when I come through, bring it with me on the balance of the trip, then check it on the flight when we fly over.
@ HUCKLEBUCK
As soon as I quit laughing I'll answer you.
Don't think that idea hasn't occurred to me.
I'm going to be completely and totally paranoid every time I even look at one of my firearms.
I've been in Alaska for 32 years now.
I've just turned 70, my metabolism is slowing down and I just don't seem to have the energy to play outdoors the year around any more.
My cut-off temp for playing outdoors used to be -15°F.
Now, as it goes below freezing, I look out the window and say to myself: Maybe tomorrow.
Over there I can play out doors the year around.
That's the reason I am making the move.
Plus, they say people are healthier and live longer in Hawaii.
That's what talked my gal friend into wanting to make the move.
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Glad to hear that you've got your plan figured out. There is a lot of misinformation to navigate. I moved to Hawaii earlier this year with 2 rifles, and mailed them to myself (care of my father, who already lived here) via registered mail. I had the boxes each rifle came in, and I put both of those in a golf club box from the UPS store, and filled the empty space with packing peanuts.
Here is what I know about sending a firearm via registered mail:
- long guns only, handguns are not allowed
- guns must be unloaded, obviously
- guns must be shipped separately from ammunition
- box must be sealed with paper packing tape, no cellophane tape.
I took my ammo on the plane in my checked luggage. You have to make sure you declare the ammo to the check-in desk. TSA weight limit is 11 lbs of packaged ammunition, no loose rounds allowed. I did my best before packing to weigh out 11 lbs with the fishing scale I had, and one of my friends scored a box of CCI standard.
The TSA guy weighed it out to 11.2 lbs while asking me the standard profiling questions. He was a bro and let it slide. I had read that Hawaiian Airlines had a ammo weight limit of less than 11 lbs, but it didn't affect my experience.
To register your out-of-state purchased long guns with HPD, you need to go down to the Beretania St. station. My understanding is that you have 72 hours to register once you *take possession* of the firearms.
Oh, and welcome!
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I have decided how I'll do it.
2ahawaii has hit on the head.
I'll mail the rifles to myself c/o the mail drop/storage unit.
Then, I'll FedEx the Redhawk to myself c/o either my brother or son down in Washington.
I'll pick it up from them when I come through, bring it with me on the balance of the trip, then check it on the flight when we fly over.
@ HUCKLEBUCK
As soon as I quit laughing I'll answer you.
Don't think that idea hasn't occurred to me.
I'm going to be completely and totally paranoid every time I even look at one of my firearms.
I've been in Alaska for 32 years now.
I've just turned 70, my metabolism is slowing down and I just don't seem to have the energy to play outdoors the year around any more.
My cut-off temp for playing outdoors used to be -15°F.
Now, as it goes below freezing, I look out the window and say to myself: Maybe tomorrow.
Over there I can play out doors the year around.
That's the reason I am making the move.
Plus, they say people are healthier and live longer in Hawaii.
That's what talked my gal friend into wanting to make the move.
First off congrats on the milestone and all the ones yet to come! I think you will find Hawaii's weather most agreeable - the warmth means your body stays limber, the humidity is good for your lungs and skin, the sun provides natural vitamin D, the outside is a never ending source of fun and recreation and on and on :D
See you at a Pau Hana or other event soon - would love to hear your stories of AK!
Aloha
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OK, I'm coming together on this.
Getting the handgun to Washington Will be a few dollars cheaper by UPS than FedEx, in the $70 to $75 range.
It will have to go by 1 day service no matter which carrier I use.
Neither will allow any ammunition to be included with the firearm.
If any is sent, it will have to be sent separately ... not worth doing.
My intent is to leave it in the package it was sent down in for the remainder of the trip, or as far through the trip as I can.
The only complication I can see, is that here in AK, if I am pulled over by a law officer,
I am required to inform him that I have a firearm in the vehicle.
I tend to worry about doing this in the "less progressive" areas of the country, but still think I should.
Hawaiian Airlines will allow up to 11# of ammunition to be included with the firearm.
I'm thinking that I'll have the revolver locked in its original factory box still inside the packaging from shipping by UPS.
Then, that and almost four 50 round boxes of 240 grain .44mags inside a locked 4 handgun hard case.
I bought and carried the .44 for bear protection.
I have always used 300gr bullets loaded to ~1300fps.
I certainly will not need to use a load like that in Hawaii.
And, a 240 grain bullet also may be a bit heavier than any thing required,
except for possibility of needing to cut brush.
If I dropped them to 180 grains I could pack even more in.
You'll have to excuse me.
I have this hoarder complex that tends to run wild with me.
So the question is, will I run into regulations in CA that will hamper doing a quick grab and dash for ammo?
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Well, I'll be out of here in a few more days and on my way to HI.
The long way.
I had arranged to mail my rifles to our storage unit in Hilo and the hand gun to a FFL where my son lives in Washington.
Then, I decided to look a bit further into it yesterday.
I went to this page:
http://www.hawaiipolice.com/services/firearm-registration (http://www.hawaiipolice.com/services/firearm-registration)
Where I read this:
"... If you move to Hawaiʻi and bring in a firearm of any description, you must register the firearm within 72 hours after the firearm enters the state. ..."
That brings some serious doubt to my mind as to whether or not I can mail the rifles to BI ahead of myself.
So, I call Hawaii Police @ Firearms Registration - East Hawaiʻi: (808) 961-2239.
The gal I spoke with said that Hawaii state law says that I cannot mail a firearm of any type into Hawaii except through a FFL.
I told her that the federales say that I can mail rifles from one state to another state addressed from myself to myself c/o a second party not needing to be a FFL.
She said that I could fight it if I wanted to.
Being as I am not out to set the world straight, right all wrongs, or set any precedences, I declined.
I will bring them along with me as checked baggage as well as the hand gun when I fly over.
Then, I began thinking about the trip down through Canada and the Western States. We intend to visit a number of National Parks and similar attractions as we pass through the states of Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington, Oregon and California.
My first thought was about transporting firearms from state to state. So, I checked a bit and found the Federally mandated right of Peaceful Journey. Now, as long as I am not trying to travel through Washington DC, New York, Mass., Conn. or any of the "liberal" bastions, chances are I should be OK. In those areas I might have to resort to a legal battle to enforce my right of Peaceful Journey.
Again, I decline.
The states that I will be traveling through are all much more enlightened and "liberal" in their attitudes towards firearms. They adhere to the federal laws or have their own that meet or exceed the "liberalness" of the federal mandate.
So, transporting them through the states will not be a problem as long as I follow the rules that apply to doing it in a personal vehicle.
Then, my second thought: about the National Parks. It used to be illegal to pass through Mt. Rainier NP carrying a firearm in the vehicle. So, I emailed a question to the NP people about visiting NP's with firearms that are being transported in my vehicle. outlined my intent and the conditions they would be carried under.
Their response was that they held to whatever rules the state the park was located in enforced for transporting firearms.
So, as I see it, I should have no problems transporting my firearms once I'm south of Canada as long as I use common sense and don't step on any land mines.
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You can mail a long gun just like you thought. Only, Hawaii has its own messed up laws that will not allow it. Just like how we cannot carry either open or concealed. And just like how if you show up at JFK airport in NYC with handguns in your luggage and even if you are just stopping over to change planes and you have to claim your baggage... you'll be arrested, even though federal laws say this is unlawful.
By the way, when you do get here. You should know you are only allowed to take your gun to and from a hunting place.. or the police department
And if you buy a box of ammo and happen to stop to get a bite to eat on the way home you just committed a misdemeanor.
If you want to cut down on some weight you could take apart the guns and only bring the serialized part with you on the plane and just ship the rest. This is the only part that is regulated anyway.
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The trip has begun. We are now in Washington.
I got the usual grilling from Canadian Customs about firearms and ammunition when entering Canada.
I had all the right answers to all the questions and was passed through no problem.
I've picked up my rifles from my son, no problem.
I've picked up the handgun from the FFL
There I ran into my first glitch.
When arranging the transaction by phone from Alaska, I was told there would be a $35 charge to receive and hold my handgun for pickup.
When picking up MY firearm, he announced that I had to pay another $35+ in sales tax before he would release the gun to me.
I think that I can recover the sales tax, but will have to do the "two-step shuffle" the state requires to obtain my refund.
Why can't life be simple?
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good lord, why are you moving to Hawaii? it might be a nice place to visit but unless your extremely wealthy, Hawaii sucks!
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HPD is gonna make you jump through hoops to get your firearms here. FFL is your best bet instead of trying to skirt around it. For me, I'd hate to lose any of my stuff in the shuffle.
Btw, upon your arrival, welcome to Hawaii! :shaka:
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Brother, Hawaii is great! Sure it is a bit expensive, but I have met some fantastic people here! I am sad that I am leaving soon (I think). I don't understand all the military people saying how locals hate us military dudes. I would imagine that if you act like an douchebag, then the people will treat you like one. Welcome and enjoy yourself!
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Brother, Hawaii is great! Sure it is a bit expensive, but I have met some fantastic people here! I am sad that I am leaving soon (I think). I don't understand all the military people saying how locals hate us military dudes. I would imagine that if you act like an douchebag, then the people will treat you like one. Welcome and enjoy yourself!
Well said bother, well said. :thumbsup:
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Are you a US citizen? I had a friend that came from Canada, and not a US citizen, he said that he could not register his guns in Hawaii because he is not a US citizen...I'm not sure about this, but worth checking...good luck :shaka:
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Brother, Hawaii is great! Sure it is a bit expensive, but I have met some fantastic people here! I am sad that I am leaving soon (I think). I don't understand all the military people saying how locals hate us military dudes. I would imagine that if you act like an douchebag, then the people will treat you like one. Welcome and enjoy yourself!
F that, its not just a bit expensive, it is one of the most expensive cities to live in behind ny city and certain parts of LA. Houses average 650-800k in town for a piece of crap you would have to burn to the ground and rebuild to live in. It's also one of the worst states to live in for guns again just behind ny and cali. We have the second worst traffic in the nation behind cali (the 450 is a bitch but at least you are rolling at like 40mph) and I think we have the second worst drivers just behind florida. too many cars, too many people, too many bad politicians, and too little jobs with too little pay.
I stand by my original post, nice place to visit but unless you'r rich, Hawaii sucks!
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Are you a US citizen? I had a friend that came from Canada, and not a US citizen, he said that he could not register his guns in Hawaii because he is not a US citizen...I'm not sure about this, but worth checking...good luck :shaka:
That is 100% correct.
Only American citizens can have guns in HI, not even legal immigrants (permanent residents).
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That is 100% correct.
Only American citizens can have guns in HI, not even legal immigrants (permanent residents).
don't forget..criminals can have guns too :o
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F that, its not just a bit expensive, it is one of the most expensive cities to live in behind ny city and certain parts of LA. Houses average 650-800k in town for a piece of crap you would have to burn to the ground and rebuild to live in. It's also one of the worst states to live in for guns again just behind ny and cali. We have the second worst traffic in the nation behind cali (the 450 is a bitch but at least you are rolling at like 40mph) and I think we have the second worst drivers just behind florida. too many cars, too many people, too many bad politicians, and too little jobs with too little pay.
I stand by my original post, nice place to visit but unless you'r rich, Hawaii sucks!
whats considred rich these days btw.. just curious
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don't forget..criminals can have guns too :o
Also criminal to be American and not a responsible gun owner. :shaka:
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whats considred rich these days btw.. just curious
5,000 rounds ammo.
Per firearm.
Would be a reasonable start.
:shaka:
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5,000 rounds ammo.
Per firearm.
Would be a reasonable start.
:shaka:
:rofl:
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5,000 rounds ammo.
Per firearm.
Would be a reasonable start.
:shaka:
Damn! I have suddenly become poor. :(
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Damn! I have suddenly become poor. :(
There is always middle-class.
Don't sweat it bro. Most of us are middle-class.
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There is always middle-class.
Don't sweat it bro. Most of us are middle-class.
Lol yeah, that'll be the day when I can even get that much for one firearm.
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F that, its not just a bit expensive, it is one of the most expensive cities to live in behind ny city and certain parts of LA. Houses average 650-800k in town for a piece of crap you would have to burn to the ground and rebuild to live in. It's also one of the worst states to live in for guns again just behind ny and cali. We have the second worst traffic in the nation behind cali (the 450 is a bitch but at least you are rolling at like 40mph) and I think we have the second worst drivers just behind florida. too many cars, too many people, too many bad politicians, and too little jobs with too little pay.
I stand by my original post, nice place to visit but unless you'r rich, Hawaii sucks!
I'm not rich but there's no other place I would want to live. If u don't like Hawaii and think it sucks then leave.
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5,000 rounds ammo.
Per firearm.
Would be a reasonable start.
:shaka:
lol
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Also criminal to be American and not a responsible gun owner. :shaka:
plenty of those around hah
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F that, its not just a bit expensive, it is one of the most expensive cities to live in behind ny city and certain parts of LA. Houses average 650-800k in town for a piece of crap you would have to burn to the ground and rebuild to live in. It's also one of the worst states to live in for guns again just behind ny and cali. We have the second worst traffic in the nation behind cali (the 450 is a bitch but at least you are rolling at like 40mph) and I think we have the second worst drivers just behind florida. too many cars, too many people, too many bad politicians, and too little jobs with too little pay.
I stand by my original post, nice place to visit but unless you'r rich, Hawaii sucks!
I would second this. Hawaii would be a great place if you were just on vacation the whole time and flew here in your private jet to spend the week at your house near the water you visit once or twice a year. But when you are not on vacation it is different.
I have driven throughout Mass and boston, CT,NY,NJ and the people in those places all drive crazy like they will literally just run your ass over, you have to be very agressive... But people here just seem to be so stupid behind the wheel sometimes. For example stopping traffic on a major road to let someone who does not have right of way pull out! WTF!! I think I have seen it all here. Maybe I just don't drive with aloha. ::)
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I agree totally.
On the mainland, drivers are bad because they are aggressive and reckless.
In HI, the drivers are dangerous because they are stupid. And that is not just a funny way to say it, it is a very serious comment. Drivers here do really stupid stuff and it is dangerous, almost like I don't know if they even took any defensive driving classes.
I am not sure which one is scarier.
I drive with total aloha, not only because I prefer myself and everyone to be friendly, but because I am trying to be the more (most?) defensive driver around when others are not.
My friends and family say I drive too slow. I keep telling them, you guys drive too fast. They laugh and think I am the stupid one.
All my friends visiting from mainland are shocked by the driving habits here. They always ask me if this is how people drive all the time. I say Yup.
This is something I am not proud of about HI. I really wish we drove much safer here in HI. So many accidents and deaths every week.
PS - by the way, it is scary in the situation you mentioned because that driver with NO right of way MIGHT just pull out onto the main road! You know I speak the truth!
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the thing i see all the time now is people do not know wtf to do when an emergency vehicle is coming with their flashers on
yesterday, i was at a stoplight and the ambulance was coming
i was the first car at the light and the light turned green, so i went across the intersection and pulled off
everyone else behind me stayed where they were and blocked the whole intersection, even though the light was green!
when the ambulance got to the next intersection it was even worse, since the light was red, so people were even more hesitant to move
I agree totally.
On the mainland, drivers are bad because they are aggressive and reckless.
In HI, the drivers are dangerous because they are stupid. And that is not just a funny way to say it, it is a very serious comment. Drivers here do really stupid stuff and it is dangerous, almost like I don't know if they even took any defensive driving classes.
I am not sure which one is scarier.
I drive with total aloha, not only because I prefer myself and everyone to be friendly, but because I am trying to be the more (most?) defensive driver around when others are not.
My friends and family say I drive too slow. I keep telling them, you guys drive too fast. They laugh and think I am the stupid one.
All my friends visiting from mainland are shocked by the driving habits here. They always ask me if this is how people drive all the time. I say Yup.
This is something I am not proud of about HI. I really wish we drove much safer here in HI. So many accidents and deaths every week.
PS - by the way, it is scary in the situation you mentioned because that driver with NO right of way MIGHT just pull out onto the main road! You know I speak the truth!
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Yup it is terrible.
I was in a car as front passenger with my family member as the driver.
Ambulance was blasting the horn to tell the driver (my family member) to MOVE but he was just clueless and frozen on the spot.
It was infuriating and embarrassing at the same time but I could not really say too much out loud (you guys can understand).
I just said, give him more space (like we even gave him any space at all) and when the ambulance finally managed to pass, the ambulance driver glared at me with a WTF look.
Somehow I got blamed for this crap by the ambulance driver.
:(
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the thing i see all the time now is people do not know wtf to do when an emergency vehicle is coming with their flashers on
yesterday, i was at a stoplight and the ambulance was coming
i was the first car at the light and the light turned green, so i went across the intersection and pulled off
everyone else behind me stayed where they were and blocked the whole intersection, even though the light was green!
when the ambulance got to the next intersection it was even worse, since the light was red, so people were even more hesitant to move
I totally think that part of drivers training should include how to properly react to emergency vehicles...
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I'm not rich but there's no other place I would want to live. If u don't like Hawaii and think it sucks then leave.
if I could afford it I would!
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I'm not rich but there's no other place I would want to live. If u don't like Hawaii and think it sucks then leave.
+1
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if I could afford it I would!
i bet if you really wanted to move you could....trust me ive moved 2x
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Despite problems (every place has pros/cons) Hawaii is still the happiest place to live, IMHO.
I am happy every day when I go out and talk to people and make jokes, etc. even if I never see them again.
Of course, not every encounter is nice, but generally speaking, it is a friendly, happy, relaxed place where probably it is not 6 degrees of separation but maybe 3 degrees of separation.
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Yeah, Hawaii folks are generally friendlier and approachable than most places.
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Well, we're sitting in San Diego with another hour until we head for the airport. The car is with Pasha and I'm as ready as I can be to deal with TSA about my firearms.
There are too many posts since my last one to answer, but sliver's post has drawn me to make a remark.
@silver
There are people here in Alaska that feel as you do about Hawaii. We call them Sourdoughs: Sour on Alaska and not enough dough to get out.
I am not one of them.
I love it in Alaska.
I've been up there for over 30 years.
It is the longest period I have spent in one area since I left home.
I am not happy about leaving Ak, but am not unhappy either.
I am simply getting too old to deal with winters and I refuse to spend half my life saying "Maybe tomorrow." when there is snow on the ground.
I've been to Hawaii several times and have no doubt that I can find a way to make it liveable for me on the east side of BI.
One does have to be a bit flexible.
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good luck on your trip!
It's great weather today here.
welcome again!
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We call them Sourdoughs: Sour on Alaska and not enough dough to get out.
Anyone got an idea of what the Hawaii version would be?
I know I'll be here til I'm pushing up daisies :shaka:
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We call them Sourdoughs: Sour on Alaska and not enough dough to get out.
Anyone got an idea of what the Hawaii version would be?
I know I'll be here til I'm pushing up daisies :shaka:
sour poi... :rofl:
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sour poi... :rofl:
YEAH!! :rofl:
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Well, we've been on-island for 2 to 3 weeks now.
We're still fully absorbed with getting set up here.
It is a good move for us.
We're happy with the situations we're finding here.
We're pleased with the climate.
Even though it is too hot and too humid for us yet.
But, we'll adapt to it.
We have already begun to.
As a descendant from a long line of Danish dairy farmers, and being so tight that I squeak, I am appalled at the price of milk here, from $3.39 to $4.99/gal.
I was able to adapt to drinking skim milk years ago.
I may be able to drop milk from my diet, or at least curtail my 1 to 1-1/2 gal/week habit.
Prices are higher than Alaska.
But, we don't have to buy winter clothing - my new wardrobe now consists of t-shirts, shorts and flip-flops; or winter tires - no more changing over to studded tires on all 4 corners for 6 months a year and then back to summer tires in the spring for the cars, BOTH OF THEM!
Gas may be a bit more expensive, from $3.89 to $4.25.
But, it is cheaper than in Canada, and it isn't 400 miles to the closest larger [>/= 50k] sized city ,or a day and a half drive to reach the state's border.
Yeah, it's a good move.
I squawked to the Washington tax people about the tax charge on my handgun and was flipped off.
The easiest part of transporting my firearms was dealing with TSA at the San Diego airport.
They are registered here.
Hawaii appears to be satisfied.
Didn't pick up any ammo on the mainland before jumping off.
as soon as I get the time, I'll look into purchasing powder and primers locally to do my own reloads rather than buying factory ammo.
I have everything needed to do so, except powder and primers.
We've moved from a one night rental, to a 1 week rental, to a monthly rental for the 1st part of getting set up.
Now, we're looking at houses and property for a purchase.
We have made an offer on one, but have not received an answer yet, maybe later today.
As soon as we have a place and are moved in, then, when I get all the little things done that are needed to satisfy her, I'll have time to look into getting my reloading supplies ordered.
I have no doubt that I'll have to special order the type of powders I want for the .44mag and the 7.62X39mm and then wait for them to come in with the next regular order.
It isn't all that much different from how it was in Alaska - except for the climate.
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What part of the island are u living in?
Yah all liquids are expense here from milk to gas. It has been unusually hot and humid the past couple of weeks but at lease the trade winds came back alittle and winter is coming so it will be a little cooler but at lease we can still wear boardshorst tshirts and slippahs ( flip flops) during the winter. What type of powders are u looking for?
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We're staying in Hawaiian Acres for now.
The place we have an offer out on is in Leilani Estates.
It looks like we might be getting that one together.
We'll know soon.
If not, the looking process will continue.
I like Winchester 296 for the .44mag.
I was pushing 300gr JSPs and JHPs as fast as I could for bear protection.
The Ruger frame is so strong that the .44mag casing isn't big enough to hold enough powder to hurt it.
I still have several boxes of 300gr JSP and JHP.
I'll probably slow them down a bit.
They'll make good brush cutters.
I can't remember what I used for the SKS's food.
I only used it for smelling gun-smoke, making noise and tearing targets.
It was not a legal hunting weapon in Alaska as it is here.
So, after a short while and using up 1 bottle of Hogdon powder, I went back to imported ammo.
It was cheaper than reloading.
Here, I'll be using a hunting load in it while trying to get it to shoot as flat as I can.
I'll be putting scopes on both the Ruger and the SKS.
One question:
Do I have to take the bayonet off the SKS?
After all, if you can hunt pig with a knife why not a bayonet?
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Welcome to the Big island! If you ever go target shooting at Manuka let me know.
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