Meeting yesterday? Any updates? Those of us without Facebook are wondering what is going on 

Updates on 11/28 meeting?

Wow. It just occurred to me that we already let the government take our guns- It just happens so slowly that we don't see it!

Case in point- Try to exercise your right to bear arms. Grab a holster and walk down the street without putting anyone in danger harming anyone. Guaranteed the police will seize your firearm and throw you in jail. How did we let that happen?

How on earth could we possibly collectively defend ourselves here in Hawaii? It seems that our lovely state has outlawed the militia. Hmm.

This law bothers me almost as much as the "may issue" law.

"(6)  It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm"

Really? Does this somehow make it more dangerous than any other semiautomatic firearm? Wait, nevermind- numbers 1-6 are all equally retarded.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys.
The noise ordinances were very helpful, thanks for that too.

I will probably go down to the police station next week and see what I learn there (making sure to take notes and names )

[§342F-6]  Inspection of premises.  The director, in accordance with law, may enter and inspect any building or place to investigate an actual or suspected source of excessive noise, to ascertain compliance or noncompliance with this chapter, any rule or standard adopted by the department pursuant to this chapter, or any permit or other approval issued by the department pursuant to this chapter, and to make reasonable tests in connection therewith.

This makes me a little nervous, but it mentions "in accordance with law" which I assume to mean "with probable cause"

I've had trouble with a different neighbor, and don't want to start the "call the county/state/army again unless I know I'm in the right. (yes, the department of the army came out last time!)

I'm not going to lie, though, I would be just fine with 2 min on, 18 minutes adjusting targets, et cetera 


EDIT: I need to dig up the form the county made us sign when we built our house- says something like "we know this is ag land- we promise never to complain about farming related noises ever ever ever" I think it mostly relates to the sugar company, but if this particular neighbor signed it, it would be like my noise violating permit 

I've searched the site, and found:

Shooting on private property is completely legal in Hawaii.

There are 3 things, call them side effects of shooting on private property, that can get you in trouble though:
1.  Having a bullet leave your property.  Instant case of reckless endangering.
2.  Violating noise ordinances.  Earns you a pricey ticket.
3.  Displaying a firearm in view of the public.  Can get you charged with terroristic threatening.

So, the trick is to find private property that allows you privacy and noise abatement.  I regularly shoot inside my house, using powderless .22 rounds called "Super Colibri" by Aguila.  These, and other similar products, have less report than a spring-driven air gun.  I would shoot in my backward, but I can't absolutely guarantee that a neighbor won't see me and take offense.

My friend is having trouble with their neighbors threatening to call the police. So, how could he check to make sure that he won't "get arrested/ go to jail" like the neighbor mentioned repeatedly on the phone. (BTW the neighbor lives down the street, 3 houses away from said incident)

The specifics of the situation are:
1. Located on 2 acres, agriculture zoned land in a valley. It is about a 60' backstop behind shooting range.
2. As mentioned, agriculture zoned, so I'm not aware of any noise ordinances. (but where could we check)
3. Possibly in view of the public if the public really is trying to see in, but certainly not a danger to them.

The police haven't shown up yet, but we probably won't be shooting there for a while unless we're sure he won't get in trouble- any tips?

Mahalo   

EDIT: forgot to mention that this problem probably won't go away by itself because the complainer opened one of those bed & breakfast places out there in the jungle...

Honestly, I'm somewhere between lax and none. I believe the constitution says we can keep and bear arms unconditionally, but I understand that we should try to prevent the proven mentally deranged from purchasing a weapon in that condition.

However, if military and law enforcement can use it, we are constitutionally allowed to have it also; that's the "We the people of the United States" part.

You're right, they fall under the term antique firearm. Just not the normal kine

What does this mean, as in where can I read these rules? I have heard rumors of these separate rules, but never found them. As I recall, at the NRA sponsored pistol safety class I attended, they explained that all firearms that use an explosive to fire were grouped together (as opposed to airguns) [edit- I mean Hawaii rules, not ATF rules]  and that specifically antique firearms were not exempt.

So..... can we open carry percussion cap revolvers? Because that would be plenty of firepower for me.... maybe 2 of them.   

Judge Magnum (3" shells with #6 shot)
No need for careful aim in the dark...

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