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Legal and Activism / Re: Concealed Carry in Hawaii
« on: September 28, 2009, 07:48:54 PM »
I couldn't find anything on the website, but is it possible to start having monthly meetings coordinated by the HRA (regardless of membership) to discuss issues that we face? I think membership in the HRA should be encouraged but it shouldn't be the basis for admittance.

Now, the last thing I need in my life is another meeting but someone or some organization has to take the lead on organizing the Island. I can't believe that all of the gun sellers in this area can't get along for the betterment of the cause. Don't they realize that if they worked together they would probably get more customers? In Illinois, RRA / Springfield Armory / Les Bear / LMT are all in the same area but they work together to benefit the shooting community. Heck, even the indoor shooting range worked with the outdoor shooting range (including reducing rates if you belonged to one or the other).

From an outsiders perspective (I keep repeating this so people don't think I'm talking stink about them) the state of Hawaii is disorganized. I agree that giving testimony will help, but my first reaction to reading that post was why the heck would I stick my neck out there when nobody else is going to.

You don't get solders to storm a hill as a unit if only 1 or 2 go it alone.
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Legal and Activism / Re: Concealed Carry in Hawaii
« on: September 23, 2009, 08:37:07 PM »
I've mentioned that I'm new to the island and still looking for a job but I will probably join the HRA as soon as job / house stuff shows up but...

The one thing that surprises me the most since coming here is that there are lots of people who like to shoot but because of culture (or something personal) decide to stay behind the scenes. Now - I'm not trying to stereotype at all, but one of the first things I learned when I got on the island was that the tallest nail gets hit first...

You make a good point about HRA numbers verses NRA numbers and my personal opinion (note: personal opinion) is that the cost to join is too high compared to what I see are the benefits. I should also note that the costs to join the HRA are the same to join the Illinois State Rifle Association.

Now - let me say that since I don't have my guns here yet, I'm not actively involved in shooting / visiting gun stores / going to the range. But, I have on occasion visited locations based on newsgroup postings and what other friends have told me. And in my visits I have yet to see anything related to HRA at any stores (or maybe I missed it).

I monitor the HRA website for news, but the last time it was updated was July. I don't see anything on the site to sign up for email updates, I'm sure this can't be hard to configure. I don't mean to complain but I'm not seeing the value (coming from an outsider - remember I'm not trying to PO anyone here) of what HRA brings to the table.

I am a member of the Illinois State Rifle Association and I get RSS feeds as well as email updates all the time. I feel like I'm more involved with them than I am here and this is my new home.

So - instead of being part of the problem, I want to be part of the solution and joining the HRA is only a small part of that. So - to get to the question and get off my soapbox - HOW ELSE CAN I HELP? How can I (or we the shooting community) organize ourselves to be effective?
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Legal and Activism / Re: Concealed Carry in Hawaii
« on: August 08, 2009, 10:37:10 AM »
What would it really take (legally) to change or challenge the CCW policy? Do we have to wait for some legal precedence from California (because of the circuit court coverage (as I understand it))? Will it take someone locally (who meets all the requirements (similar to Heller)) to take the policy to court?

If someone locally takes it to court, will others here support the cause financially??

Do we have the commitment as a 2A community to band together? I mean really band together?

Why hasn't someone taken this issue to court before (keep in mind that I just moved here and I'm trying to get myself familiarized with local laws and court jurisdiction)? If they have - what was the outcome and why did it fail?
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General Discussion / Re: New Member? Introduce yourself here!
« on: August 07, 2009, 02:59:07 PM »
Name is Darren - new to Hawaii (about 3 months). Live in Nuuanu

Would like to see CCW as well. I moved here from IL where it's not even allowed. I moved here as a civilian to be with the wife's family so our stuff is in storage until we find jobs & house.

I was pretty involved with the IL shooting community and hope to do the same here...

Aloha!
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