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Legal and Activism / Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: January 04, 2019, 09:12:08 PM »
I don't vote.



Didn't-voters are also covered under the theory of you-have-exactly-what-you-deserve. If you don't vote then you helped it happened; and whether or not one votes if they allow to stand waht is standing then again, you still deserve what is standing. Because not knocking it down.
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Legal and Activism / Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: January 04, 2019, 09:09:05 PM »
The three-judge panel that decided Young v. Hawaii is bound by the en banc decision in Peruta v. San Diego which held that there is no right, under the Second Amendment, for a member of the general public to carry a handgun concealed in public.  The only courts which can overturn the en banc decision in Peruta is another en banc court of the 9th circuit or the United States Supreme Court.  Peruta filed a cert petition which was denied.  Therefore, the en banc decision in Peruta remains binding on every three-judge panel as well as every district court judge in the 9th circuit.

Thanks!
But...If the Peruta banc decided that concealed carry is not constitutionally protected, and separately some other - Young, or any other - case thread decides that open carry is also not constitutionally protected, then effectively the courts (albeit via separate threads) have decided that bearing arms in public in any fashion is not constitutionally protected.

Wait... That would mean either 1) the court(s) are wrong (honest mistake) ; or 2) the court(s) deliberately took away one of our rights knowing full well what they are doing; or 3) the court(s)' interpretation(s) are correct and we can only bear arms in private and not in public.

If number three, then wow that sucks, and the 2A is a crappy right.
If number one, then wouldn't further litigation expose and correct that ? Give us back either the open- or concealed-carry?
If number two, isn't that legitimate grounds for open amred insurrection and overthrow (corrective) action of a tyrannical governing system? I mean, my forefathers threw a bunch of tea into the harbor for this kind of crap...
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Legal and Activism / Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: December 26, 2018, 07:31:26 PM »
I sent an email to the White House asking that...Apparently they don't value my opinion all that highly...

Yeah, I know what you mean. They don't listen to Sergeant Cox, either.  >:(
Had they listened to Sergeant Cox, they wouldn't be in Iraq in the first place, or, having gone in, woulda been done the right way quicker the first time. :o  That, and Palestine wouldn't be a threat to anyone anymore. ;)   But, they don't listen to you and they don't listen to Sergeant Cox either. Sergeant Cox has all the answers...

Caveat: I am (was) Sergeant Cox (retired).
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Legal and Activism / Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: December 26, 2018, 06:55:16 PM »
... That argument is foreclosed by the en banc decision in Peruta...

What mean "foreclosed" ???
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Legal and Activism / Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: December 26, 2018, 06:48:49 PM »
...the state will do everything it can, for as long as it can, no matter how much it costs, to deny Hawaii residents of their fundamental, individual, enumerated, god-given/natural, inalienable constitutionally-protected rights. That's what they do.

Everyman has exactly the government he deserves. You all voted these clowns for 70 years in a row just because your tutu used to vote for them, and your dad votes for them, and your stupid civil servant unions tell you to vote for them, and because you all don't want to be embarrassed at your cousin Kawika's son's one year birthday party on the beach under one acre of tarp, when they all ask, "why you went vote foa dakine? They stay republicans, brah. Yoa mudda would be so shamed about you if she was alive. Ho, braddah, make A you neva vote for da dems, man! Hey Auntie, he went vote foa da odda side!" (and assorted other well constructed conversations about governance, world view, and geoploitical subtleties that likely happen - not! - at such gatherings.
To fit in you all vote for these clowns every cycle and we all get what we deserve. Good for you. Good for us.
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Legal and Activism / Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: December 26, 2018, 06:36:51 PM »
Since it's possible that Young could go en banc...
... resulting in likely more years of litigation to get them to actually adhere to the intent of the SCOTUS decision.) But maybe I'm totally wrong and overly pessimistic and the legislature will introduce a bill in a month to establish permitless carry throughout Hawaii. But I don't think so.

I've been away from this thread fr months (a year?), but decided to come back specifically because I was in the yard the other day and thought, "wth ever did happen with that Young case?!"
Now I see.... Stonewalling in the 9th Demokrat Circuit, buy time for the next Socialist in Chief to appoint a few more Commissars to that circuit... Thanks.
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Legal and Activism / Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: July 25, 2018, 08:53:00 PM »
...but they can do the no shirt, no shoes, no service thing.

Ah, I see. Good point.
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Legal and Activism / Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: July 25, 2018, 06:33:19 AM »
Okay, at risk of beating the dead horse, let me see if I understand the effect of the result of this case:

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING CHANGES.

So, this ruling wasn't a "win" at all, it was a "go back to the low court and argue some more".

If I am wrong, and this is in fact a win, then WHEN (WHEN?!) will it take practical effect? And how will we know? 6'oclock new story? ?

What is the actual path to freedom from this decision?

This win > re-argue at lower court > win/lose > more appeals at 9th?
or
This win > State appeals en banc and loses > then freedom?
or
This win > State appeals en banc and wins > Young/Beck goes to SCOTUS > probably win?
or
some other convoluted path?

signed,
Confused About Why Are We All Happy About Something That Didn't Actually Change Anything After A Lot Of Lawyers Talking At Length Parenthesis I Still Cannot Carry Either Open Or Concealed Close Parenthesis Question Mark
 :crazy:
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Legal and Activism / Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: July 25, 2018, 06:14:28 AM »
...Join most of the rest of the country already...

C'mon, man, get real. Leftists only want to cite doing things the way other people do (mainly, Europe and East Asia) when it's socialist/commie stuff. They don't want to point to others as examples if the others happen to be western, or constitutionalism, or capitalism....
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Legal and Activism / Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« on: July 25, 2018, 06:10:43 AM »
Good news, but still probably take another year or two before we can actually open carry legally in Hawaii.  Even then most businesses in Hawaii would have NO GUNS ALLOWED or GUN FREE ZONE signs posted.

But then wouldn't that be unconstitutional discrimination conduct on the part of businesses?
 ???
So, if I had a business doing sales to the general public:

I could not refuse black people (or, white people, or yellow people for that matter);
I could not not serve the gays and trannies;
I could not refuse sales based on age, sex, etc etc etc...

But I COULD deny service to Trump supporters and gun owners... :wacko:

 :wtf:
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General Discussion / Re: Shooting trap at Kokohead
« on: March 25, 2017, 07:28:28 PM »
Anyone can shoot. $6 per round of 25 for non members, $5 for members. Open every Sunday and some Saturdays 9-4, last round starts at 3:30.

Largest shot size is 7.5. Trap usually uses 7.5-8, skeet #9, but the choice is yours. All shells are "target" 2.5". No magnum loads.

Choke is whatever you fancy but skeet, if memory serves me correctly, usually uses imp cyl. Trap, depending on handicap (distance)  is usually imp mod or mod for 16 yards, full for any other distance but the choice is yours.

Pump, semi, O/U, S/S, single barrels are fine. 12 ga is max.

Hope this answers all your questions. Come on down!

Gil
HTC RO

 :shaka:

Thanks sir, I do intend to try this! (not tomorrow 26th tho).
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Off Topic / Re: AMAZON to start charging HI tax
« on: March 21, 2017, 04:11:54 PM »
shipping address?

Ah, but see, if they tax based on shipping(delivery address) that doesn't work. What if grandma in Iowa buy a gift for grand-kid in Montana (uses Iowa as the billing address for the credit card but fills out delivery address as the Montana destination). Does the transaction tax Iowa state tax or Montana tax?
See, they can't use destination as the tax determinant because the destination is not always the transaction generating the taxable event.
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General Discussion / Re: Buy in another state and bring in?
« on: March 21, 2017, 04:03:57 PM »
Legally you can buy a long gun in any other state as long as it is legal to have that particular firearm in your state of residence.

So if you were so lucky be a resident of Commiefornia, you couldn't purchase a standard AR anywhere in the country (unless you spent the extra $ to have it configured CA legal, but why waste the money)

via NRA-ILA
Interstate Gun Sales

Federal law for interstate gun sales and other transfers – those occurring between two people who are not Federal Firearm Licensees (FFLs) who live in different states — is pretty straightforward. A person who is not an FFL cannot acquire a handgun from anyone – an FFL or any other person – who lives in another state. A person (the “transferee”) acquiring a long gun must do so through a licensed dealer (FFL). It can be an FFL in any state, the transfer must comply with the laws of the FFL’s and the transferee’s states.

To begin the transfer process for a long gun acquired interstate, the transferee must fill out a form 4473 which requires identification information and requires the transferee to answer questions stating that he or she is not acquiring the firearm for someone else (other than as a gift), and that he or she is not prohibited by law from possessing firearms. It’s a federal felony to provide false information on a form 4473, so read the questions carefully.

The FFL then calls the FBI or a state law enforcement agency, depending on the state in which the transaction is taking place, and the transferee will be screened through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and, in some states, state databases of persons prohibited from possessing firearms. Once the check is completed successfully, usually a matter of only a few minutes, the FFL may transfer the firearm.

The only exceptions relate to things like gun repairs. If you need to send your gun out of state to an FFL manufacturer, you can so do directly without going to a local FFL. That FFL manufacturer can also send your gun back to you directly.



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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:59:23 PM »
Check out the Gun Show this weekend--there will be a lot of rifles and accessories available.  If you find something you like and it's in your price range then buy it.  Don't make the mistake of walking away thinking you'll be back later to buy it--odds are that someone else will spot it and buy it out from under you.

I'll have some ammo and a NIB 6920 for sale.  There'll be a lot of used rifles for sale, but unless you know what you're looking at/for, I'd recommend sticking to new guns (at least they come with a manual).

Speedtek can help you put together a rifle, if you're looking for a customized piece (and he'll be there at the show).

Good luck!

Aww, missed the show, didn't even hear about it and just read this Tuesday afterward.. This is one of THOSE states I guess, where guns are driven socially underground then, no advertisers, no news station announcements... Thanks ofr the show advice tho, do appreciate the reply.

I wonder if it's like the gun shows on the mainland...?
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:23:16 PM »
I think AERO PRECISION  should have a mention here. I have found it nice quality at a economic cost. And yes the colt is also  good.

DirtyLickens is such a local username, especially for those of a certain age group. I wish I thought of that first.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:21:11 PM »
you wont really know exactly what you want in an AR until you shoot it for a while and get to know what you want and what works for you
you can always modify your AR later too


Unfortunately (or fortunately) looks that way ,especially with black guns today. Thanks for the reply.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:18:00 PM »
Gahh so many options!

Which is why I took a break form self-educating and came to this forum!!! You know the pain I'm feeling now. Especailly if this first one has to be "right" because I probably won't be buying many, nor often. Thanks for the reply.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:15:20 PM »
A basic AR will cost about 700ish. Most gun stores have them in stock.
Remember, its the indian, not the arrow.

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Yeah, and this injun don't shoot so well. Not good enough for high optics and free floating barrel won't help me none, not that great a shot.

I would consider myself a great "practical" shot whatever that means. Most of my time in the service I did NOT qualify expert. Yet as a Drill sergeant every time a kid had trouble hitting because "something was wrong with the weapon" I managed to grab it from him, not adjust sights, and standing up knock down more than him - just to prove to him aint nuttin wrong wit da weapon. But no, i'm definitely NOT a great sub-MOA at the far end of the KD range kind of shooter nor gonna enter any competition. So accessories and minute improvements (free float vs not) etc would just be wasted on me. I'm good enuff when I have to be good enuff shooter. Not great.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:06:47 PM »
Depends what is your primary purpose for it.  Close quarters shooting, plinking, highpower rifle, precision rifle, hunting, self defense,   etc.

Nevermind I see target shooting.  I'd go with a 16" heavy barrel which is better for precision and also helps with accuracy standing.  Chrome lined barrels are good in that it's easier to clean and long lasting.  I think most low cost AR15's nowadays shoot great.

If you have never shot a rifle before, I suggest you go to the range to get some coaching, take a class, and find out what kinds of things you want in a rifle.

retired 20-yr grunt, AB, Rgr, so I shot a little bit here and there. I know what I WANT in a rifle but the trouble is I ain't willing to pay for it (kid starting college, and wife has a wrangler JK, so there is LOTS of competition for my dollars), I can't get the M14 or Galil or AK that I want. So I'm settling for a black gun the kind I used to shot, the kind that it looks like everyone has and is cheaper than a AK/Galil/M14/M1/M1Carbine/1903. Also I don't live/breathe guns as a hobby so even though I was a career grunt I couldn't tell a key mod from a key fob as far as personally  owning or buying my own gun that uncle sam ain't tossed at me and said here ya go.

Looking for cheap to take to Koko Head someday but not something so junk that the cops at the Single Window at Beritania are gonna laugh me out of the line over (or you guys at the crater).
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: best entry-level AR-15/M-16?
« on: March 21, 2017, 02:58:10 PM »
Questions to ask...
Buy local or internet?
If internet, what FFL to choose? (http://fflgundealers.net/transfer/hawaii/)
AR-15 or 300BLK? (This is less of a silly question than you might think.)
Iron sights or scope?
If scope, how much to spend on a scope because anything less than $100 is a waste of time?
Picatinny hand guard or keymod? (I definitely rec a free floating hand guard.)

Other than that, welcome to the addiction. It's like black tar heroin. Once you get that sweet taste in your veins, you can never have enough (apparently).

Thnaks for the both humorous and truthful reply.

5.56/.223 only. Iron sights preferred (entry level). I don't know enough about picatinny vs keymod (or any other trade standard) to care, but I know picatinny from my Army time so... I guess picatinny then?
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