AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order (Read 3452 times)

Jl808

AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order
« on: June 03, 2014, 04:36:40 AM »

Posting an email from Ares Armor CEO about AB 1014.

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TO: Whom It May Concern
FROM: Dimitrios Karras, CEO Ares Armor

SUBJ: AB 1014, Gun Violence Restraining Orders

DATE: June 1, 2014

I write this letter in absolute disgust at the state of affairs in our Country. I love my Country and I love my people. I love the freedoms we used to have; I love the liberties that we used to stand for.

Politicians in this country seem to think that they rule us, that they are our "leaders" as opposed to being our servants. In their opinion you are not to be trusted. You are not to make your own choices in life. They want to tell you what to eat, what to feel, what to think, they want to tell you how to live your life. They want you to turn on your fellow Americans and be divided.

No matter if the boot on your throat is the left foot or the right foot there is still a boot on your throat. Any who think that the Republican Party stand s for their rights need to do a little memory recall and think back to who brought us the Patriot Act. They are all guilty. They are all insidious.

Just as the Nazi programs that encouraged children to turn in their parents, we have a wonderful new piece of legislation that is going to be rammed down the throats of an unwilling people. AB 1014, introduced by Nancy Skinner in California, will make it so that anyone can take the rights of any other person away simply by filing an affidavit with the court. If your neighbor doesn't like you, all they have to do is go to the court house and fill out some paper work and you can kiss your second amendment and due process goodbye.

18101. (a) Any person may submit an application to the court, on a form designed by the Judicial Council, setting forth the facts and circumstances necessitating that a gun violence restraining order by issued. A gun violence restraining order shall be issued to prohibit a named person from possessing a firearm if an affidavit, signed by the applicant under oath, and any additional information provided to the court demonstrates, to the satisfaction of the court, the named person poses a significant risk of personal injury to himself or herself or others by possessing firearms.

The defense of ones person against an aggressor who comes to your home threatening you with violence is not only justified but is lawful. If this passes, it will pit law enforcement officers directly against law abiding citizens in a very dangerous way. I am begging you, for all of our sakes, please oppose this legislation. I have seen enough blood on the ground in my life. Please, do not let a "law" pass that will cause this sort of lethal conflict.

This "law" WILL cause kinetic engagements between law enforcement and law abiding citizens. It is of the utmost importance to stop this before blood spills. Dearest brothers and sisters, no more death! I implore you! No more. I do not want to see this in my own country. I am at wits end and am begging for you to really understand the implications of a law like this. Please. No more blood. No more blood.

Remember: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

Long Live the Republic!

Dimitrios Karras, CEO Ares Armor

I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

edster48

Re: AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 06:50:58 AM »
Mr. Karras is correct, IMO the political elite are pushing us closer to civil war every day. Both parties are responsible for the situation we find ourselves in today, along with us, the American public.

Apathy towards the founding principles of our nation and a self serving attitude of " my stuff is OK so I don't care about yours, they can do what they want" has led to an erosion of our rights.

We've reached a tipping point where half of the population is supporting the other half. This will inevitably lead to hard feelings, especially when the supported half are voting themselves more of everything those of us that work hard have managed to attain. To consolidate their gains they must keep the working half subservient by further erosion of our rights, be it our second amendment rights or, as evidenced by Harry Reid's move to silence political speech, our first amendment rights. Their only defense is to rob us of the ability to defend ourselves.

Either way, we're in for a very painful period in this country. There is really no "middle ground" left to stand on. To turn back to the founding principles of the Constitution will be painful for them, to continue towards their goal of socialism and fascism will be painful for us.

Throughout history this is the textbook example of how to set the stage for War.
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

s197

Re: AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 08:54:08 AM »
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AB 1014, introduced by Nancy Skinner in California, will make it so that anyone can take the rights of any other person away simply by filing an affidavit with the court. If your neighbor doesn't like you, all they have to do is go to the court house and fill out some paper work and you can kiss your second amendment and due process goodbye.

I would hope that it would take more than a "he said she said" type deal for this sort of intervention to occur.  There should be solid evidence that the person poses a "significant risk" to themselves or another.  The following paragraph states that all evidence must be to the satisfaction of the court so hopefully he is misinterpreting the bill and due process is still preserved.

HiCarry

Re: AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 10:09:34 AM »
I would hope that it would take more than a "he said she said" type deal for this sort of intervention to occur.  There should be solid evidence that the person poses a "significant risk" to themselves or another.  The following paragraph states that all evidence must be to the satisfaction of the court so hopefully he is misinterpreting the bill and due process is still preserved.

The problem is two fold: First, most "Courts" are decidedly anti-gun, or at the least, not inclined toward gun ownership as an enumerated right equal to the other enumerated rights. They are also likely to be persuaded that gun confiscation would be for the public good and hence probably willing to give up your freedom for a little perceived public safety.

Second, the process sounds a lot like a TRO hearing where the subject of the potential action ("the gun owner") is not present nor allowed to speak against the claims being made. If you cannot counter a claim or present evidence to the contrary, then there is no due process...that's the scary part.....

Falken Hawke

Re: AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 03:59:20 PM »
Keep in mind the process in place now is already one-sided (TRO's).  Just not long ago a HPD officer was in the news for going on leave because of a TRO.

With that in mind, this Bill offers nothing but complete revocation of individual rights "for public safety".  This train of thought is extremely dangerous to our Freedom.

zippz

Re: AB 1014 - Gun Violence Restraining Order
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 06:44:51 PM »
Just replace this with a "crime free" personal zone instead.  Much safer.