I applied for my pistol acquire permit for my newest purchase and my question is what would make the HPD reject your application, how anal are they?
I have zero concern regarding the background check, etc., the only question is that my memo from my Commander had a military notary and not a State of Hawaii notary.

They took all my paperwork and didnt say anything, but while at the window one of workers came and dropped a stack of applications and told the other employee "this is the reject pile"..... so it got me thinking; If you are rejected for something like the notary stamp( or some admin error) , will the they notify you or you just find out you were rejected at pick up time?

It's definitely seemed your attitude played a big part; one guy was told to go across the street to get exact change while another was allowed to give them a $20 with "keep the change."

  I had no problems and the employees were nice enough to me.

Lifer, I just went through the process myself for the first time but my understanding of it is that as long as your background checks come out clean they WILL give you the permit. I asked that question from every gun owner I know just to make sure I wasn't messing something up and the answers were pretty much the same: its just jumping through the hoops.

That doesn't account for petty bureaucratic nonsense, though. We're lucky here on the Big Island it seems. The process of applying for my 2 permits so far have been the most pleasant interactions I've ever had with ~any~ government official.

Lifer, it does not have to be a state of Hawaii notary.

A military notary will suffice.

I just went to HPD with a buddy in the same exact situation.

All went well. 

I think they do all the checking for paperwork errors while you are there and it is only the background check you'd be waiting for. Well, actually, it's just the "cool down" period your waiting for.

Thanks for the replies.

I figured the clerks were checking all the paperwork at turn in and would kick it back if they didn't like something. Then I started playing devils advocate and thought all those in the reject pile thought they were clear too. Overanalyzing again.....

Its kind of  scary to think all those guys got rejected for a background check and are running around the island.

I was told by the lady who handles applications here that they also check state criminal and mental health records. While the federal background check can be done with a phone call... Hawaii has 1 (one) person on Oahu that handles the in-state checks for all of the islands. With the 2 week cool down period in place anyway the state has no reason to make the process faster, but technically you are waiting for the state backgrounds checks to grind through.

clshade:

"With the 2 week cool down period in place anyway..."

There's a formal, defined, "cool down" waiting period?  I mean, apart from merely a statutory time limit to check records?

Do folks who already have guns have to "cool down," too, in that sense?

I'm not being a smartass, just wondering if the phrase "cool down" is meant as "a mandatory waiting period to prevent people from committing 'a crime of passion' with a firearm," or just a statutory period of time to allow records to be checked.

Are police officers also subject to this period, regardless of its purpose, as well?

Terry, 230RN

The mandatory waiting period was to that people wouldn't commit crimes of passion. You'll be happy to know that police officers do not commit crimes of passion so they are NOT subject to the waiting period.

So if I understand this correctly, you might have 35 legally-owned firearms of all descriptions in your house, but you decide that the only firearm you can commit your "crime of passion" with is the one you saw in the gun store yesterday, so you decide to go buy it to commit this here now "crime of passion," but you have to wait two weeks to commit that there "crime of passion?"

Even though you had 35 at home when the desire to commit that there "crime of passion" hit?

So if I understand this correctly, you might have 35 legally-owned firearms of all descriptions in your house, but you decide that the only firearm you can commit your "crime of passion" with is the one you saw in the gun store yesterday, so you decide to go buy it to commit this here now "crime of passion," but you have to wait two weeks to commit that there "crime of passion?"

Even though you had 35 at home when the desire to commit that there "crime of passion" hit?

hehe yep..  If you want a new pistol to commit your crime of passion.  Other wise, you could use your long gun permit, which is good for one year, to immediately purchase that new long gun for the crime of passion.  But if you need to update the long gun permit, even if the old one has not expired yet, you still need to 'cool off' for two weeks to acquire the updated one year long gun permit...    However, you could still use the old permit for those two weeks, but in that case you haven't 'cooled off' yet... 

Confused yet?

What a waste of our hard earned taxpayer dollars right?

Police officers don't need a cool down period because they will just use their car to hit someone while running late for rollcall.

Police officers don't need a cool down period because they will just use their car to hit someone while running late for rollcall.

Oooooh, thats cold.

Quote from: 230RN on November 26, 2011, 05:47:10 AM

So if I understand this correctly, you might have 35 legally-owned firearms of all descriptions in your house, but you decide that the only firearm you can commit your "crime of passion" with is the one you saw in the gun store yesterday, so you decide to go buy it to commit this here now "crime of passion," but you have to wait two weeks to commit that there "crime of passion?"

Even though you had 35 at home when the desire to commit that there "crime of passion" hit?

hehe yep..  If you want a new pistol to commit your crime of passion.  Other wise, you could use your long gun permit, which is good for one year, to immediately purchase that new long gun for the crime of passion.  But if you need to update the long gun permit, even if the old one has not expired yet, you still need to 'cool off' for two weeks to acquire the updated one year long gun permit...    However, you could still use the old permit for those two weeks, but in that case you haven't 'cooled off' yet... 

Confused yet?

What a waste of our hard earned taxpayer dollars right?

I don't know if it costs any more money but the 2 week waiting period is incredibly asinine.

I can understand the two week waiting period the very first time you purchase a firearm.

But after you own firearms, there should be no waiting period.

I've read hundreds of stories nationwide about crimes committed with guns and only in two or three of these stories is the gun used in the commission of said crime a legally acquired firearm. Almost always it's some stolen or illegally acquired gun.

*NEWSFLASH* 99.9% of law abiding citizens don't commit crimes with guns.

Well, I can understand it if you have 34 firearms, but once you get to 35...


 

Police officers don't need a cool down period because they will just use their car to hit someone while running late for rollcall.

Good one