Quote from: Cougar8045 on January 24, 2012, 10:37:50 AM

I've been a pretty vocal hater of the AK-47, but this guy made the right choice for a semi-auto rifle.  Since I do all my shooting at the range, I don't care as much about the reliability advantage of the AK, and the accuracy tradeoff is something I wouldn't be able to put up with.  But if I was a rancher in dusty south Texas, and I needed a rifle to ride with me in the truck, on the four wheeler, moving cattle, driving tractor, all day, every day, and still go bang rightf***ingnow when I need it, I'd go AK all the way.

I'd be willing to bet that without scopes, I can hit a 8" gong at 100 yards just as many times as any AR.

Quote from: Kingkeoni on January 24, 2012, 11:04:34 AM

Quote from: Cougar8045 on January 24, 2012, 10:37:50 AM

I've been a pretty vocal hater of the AK-47, but this guy made the right choice for a semi-auto rifle.  Since I do all my shooting at the range, I don't care as much about the reliability advantage of the AK, and the accuracy tradeoff is something I wouldn't be able to put up with.  But if I was a rancher in dusty south Texas, and I needed a rifle to ride with me in the truck, on the four wheeler, moving cattle, driving tractor, all day, every day, and still go bang rightf***ingnow when I need it, I'd go AK all the way.

I'd be willing to bet that without scopes, I can hit a 8" gong at 100 yards just as many times as any AR.

I used to tear up those steel targets at 200 to the left of the deer with my AK and irons,

Quote from: nf9648 on January 24, 2012, 05:31:19 PM

Quote from: Kingkeoni on January 24, 2012, 11:04:34 AM

Quote from: Cougar8045 on January 24, 2012, 10:37:50 AM

I've been a pretty vocal hater of the AK-47, but this guy made the right choice for a semi-auto rifle.  Since I do all my shooting at the range, I don't care as much about the reliability advantage of the AK, and the accuracy tradeoff is something I wouldn't be able to put up with.  But if I was a rancher in dusty south Texas, and I needed a rifle to ride with me in the truck, on the four wheeler, moving cattle, driving tractor, all day, every day, and still go bang rightf***ingnow when I need it, I'd go AK all the way.

I'd be willing to bet that without scopes, I can hit a 8" gong at 100 yards just as many times as any AR.

I used to tear up those steel targets at 200 to the left of the deer with my AK and irons,

I do too.

I can hit that 200 or 250 or whatever it is square gong all day with no scope and my AK's.
Not everyone who shoots an AR can.

Now I know that ole coug can shoot though.
Montana has that effect on men. 

Quote from: Kingkeoni on January 24, 2012, 06:35:23 PM

Quote from: nf9648 on January 24, 2012, 05:31:19 PM

Quote from: Kingkeoni on January 24, 2012, 11:04:34 AM

Quote from: Cougar8045 on January 24, 2012, 10:37:50 AM

I've been a pretty vocal hater of the AK-47, but this guy made the right choice for a semi-auto rifle.  Since I do all my shooting at the range, I don't care as much about the reliability advantage of the AK, and the accuracy tradeoff is something I wouldn't be able to put up with.  But if I was a rancher in dusty south Texas, and I needed a rifle to ride with me in the truck, on the four wheeler, moving cattle, driving tractor, all day, every day, and still go bang rightf***ingnow when I need it, I'd go AK all the way.

I'd be willing to bet that without scopes, I can hit a 8" gong at 100 yards just as many times as any AR.

I used to tear up those steel targets at 200 to the left of the deer with my AK and irons,

I do too.

I can hit that 200 or 250 or whatever it is square gong all day with no scope and my AK's.
Not everyone who shoots an AR can.

Now I know that ole coug can shoot though.
Montana has that effect on men. 

  Well, there dang sure isn't much else to do!   

Most guns are far more accurate (with consistent ammo) than the people who shoot them.

At one point my brother and I were out shooting with his somewhat cocky son-in-law. A good guy but at the time I was always kinda looking for little ways to deflate his ego. (He's grown out of it since.) Brother had a Taurus Beretta M9 copy that was loose, sloppy and had a squishy trigger. Brother and I agree that it is not the easiest pistol to shoot. Son-In-Law shoots a sloppy 8" pattern at 10 yards and says "Ah, well. This gun really isn't all that accurate."

While I agree its not the best gun in the family... I wasn't going to let the opportunity pass.

I calmly took the pistol from him, loaded up a magazine and proceeded to carefully squeeze off a 2" group and handed the pistol back to him. Mind you, I ~really~ had to concentrate on that trigger pull... but I didn't tell Son-In-Law that. He looked at me, at the gun, then at the target and said "Huhn."

Like most things that require skill, it takes a great degree of skill to make use of the refinements high quality equipment has to offer. If you are approaching that degree of skill you can shoot well with anything. To paraphrase a famous saying from the music recording business: "If you know how to shoot it doesn't matter which gun you use. If you don't know how to shoot it doesn't matter which gun you use."

I think our local AK faithful are getting a bit high on their own supply.  This thread is the first thread I think I've ever seen where a large number of people all insisted that an AK will shoot as well as an AR, at 100 yards.  Come on, fellas, where's all the "combat accurate" guys?  Where're the minute-of-pie-plates and the minute-of-bad-guys? 

Haha, give you guys an inch (by admitting that the AK is better for that farmer's application), and you try to take a mile!    Not on MY watch!