Damn this sucks (Read 7741 times)

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RSN172

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2017, 11:55:26 PM »
He said he had thousands of dollars in cash stashed in his drawer, which was stolen, along with his wife's jewelry and the AR15, nothing else.
It was done by someone who knew what he had and where he kept it.  Who keeps thousands of dollars in a bedroom drawer and goes on vacation?
This story seems fishy to me.
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PalisadesKid

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 12:19:28 AM »
Gets AR stolen.

Buys dogs to "protect" his home.

... is this guy related to whatshisface at HPD Firearms Division?

Seriously though, the whole narrative about him being concerned about his own gun being used against him raises the "conspiracy" theorist alarms for me.

I personally dont like the fact he appears to not have some sort of safe as the video just shows him opening a gun case which just implies he had no safe for it. Sure it doesnt guarantee it wouldn't get stolen anyway, but still ....

oldfart

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2017, 02:01:18 AM »
Thousands in cash? AR15? Fears for his safety?

Smells like a duck to me.
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oldfart

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2017, 02:06:46 AM »
Furthermore, it only costs a few hundred for a reasonably good gun safe or security cabinet.
Costco kapoleI, $399
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macsak

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2017, 05:19:04 AM »
He said he had thousands of dollars in cash stashed in his drawer, which was stolen, along with his wife's jewelry and the AR15, nothing else.
It was done by someone who knew what he had and where he kept it.  Who keeps thousands of dollars in a bedroom drawer and goes on vacation?
This story seems fishy to me.

inside job

rklapp

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2017, 06:40:11 AM »
Insurance fraud perhaps?
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RSN172

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2017, 06:58:30 AM »
Insurance fraud perhaps?
Insurance does not cover cash.  Good way to have a gun that cannot be confiscated because it was stolen.  Just like Lt. Hahn.
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Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2017, 09:46:39 AM »
Insurance might replace $200. Of the cash stolen. As for the jewelry if has receipt they might pay for that and I think in the firearms they might replace up to $500 combined. That means no matter worth thats all they gonna give you. Well I think if he has a decent insurance co. Of course minus his deductible. Lol Aieahound wanna kick some knowledge?

changemyoil66

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2017, 10:00:36 AM »
Not insurance fraud, but inside job.

PalisadesKid

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2017, 10:21:32 AM »
Was shopping around for ‘renter’s policies” and with All State I was able to find that they cover $2,000.00 in firearms from theft. More if you opt for specific coverage.
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drck1000

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2017, 12:36:38 PM »
Also typically depends on value.  I have a condo policy and an umbrella.  That covers "other valuables", like jewelery, watches, etc, but the limit it pretty low.  I secured separate insurance for the "other valuables" that we in excess of the policy maximums. 

tim808

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2017, 01:50:59 PM »
I was surprised they had pics of the stolen jewelry.  My wife doesn't take pics.

jerry_03

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2017, 02:12:18 PM »
the wife of the guy posted about this on the stolen stuff hawaii group on facebook. she said they had sentry safe gun cabinets (not the heavy duty safes)  and they used his own tools in the house to break into it. She said his AR along with some of her more valuable jewelry was in the safes they broke into

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2017, 02:16:49 PM »
Was shopping around for ‘renter’s policies” and with All State I was able to find that they cover $2,000.00 in firearms from theft. More if you opt for specific coverage.

All homeowners and renters policies have limits on high value items.  That includes jewelry, artwork, computer equipment/software, and firearms.  You can purchase additional supplemental insurance on your policy called "riders," "floaters,' or "personal property schedule." 

In my experience, riders are extremely overpriced for the amount of coverage.  For example, I insured my and my wife's Rolex watches with a combined purchase price of $11,000.  An All State homeowners rider to cover that was $425/year.  In just 12 years, I'd have paid half the value of the watches in premiums.  If the value depreciates, as used watches tend to, it may have only taken about 8 years to pay in half the total value, or the full value of one watch. 

So, it really depends on the chances of suffering a loss.  Chances are, only one of the watches would have been stolen or lost, not both.  So in 8-12 years, one lost or stolen watch would get us about even on the premiums spent.  I could just as easily have put that money in the bank and paid for another watch out-of-pocket.

The same calculations applied to my gun collection (before the stripper stole everything).  NRA provides me $2500 of firearm insurance free with my lifetime membership.  Their additional firearm insurance rates are much cheaper than a homeowners rider from State Farm, at least in my case.

Do some more shopping around and do price comparisons.  If you install an alarm system, cameras, or other security measures to help protect the firearms, your renters insurance company will give you about 10% off your entire policy, which might make it cheap enough to compete with other options.

Try Googling for firearm coverage rate comparisons.  Good luck!
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Damn this sucks
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2017, 02:18:13 PM »
the wife of the guy posted about this on the stolen stuff hawaii group on facebook. she said they had sentry safe gun cabinets (not the heavy duty safes)  and they used his own tools in the house to break into it. She said his AR along with some of her more valuable jewelry was in the safes they broke into

That makes sense. The thieves left the plastic case shown on the news.  Had the owner stored it in the case, I would think they'd have take the case with the gun in it.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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