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drck1000

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2017, 09:32:29 AM »
Quote from: PalisadesKid on October 19, 2017, 09:02:27 AM
Honestly, I can’t really say what I would have “accepted” unless I tried it. I COULD give it a shot for the time being to see that it ends up being.

But if I had to say, it would need to be dead on. I was verifying a 50yd zero with a 10yd target – drawing 2 dots on paper 1.9” apart (one on top the other). Top dot is POA, bottom is my grouping. So I imagine at 10 yards vs a true 50yd target, I’d need it to be dead on.
I see.  I thought maybe you just wanted to swap the dot to be able to enjoy shooting the new upper sooner rather than later.  If you wanted it to be dead on at say 50 yards, I would say your chances of getting that with swapping a dot is pretty much nil.  Even if you were to try to adjust at shorter distances with cowitnessed irons, I would imagine that you'd be at least 2-3 inches off.  That's about what I recall on the couple of times I swapped out the mount for a red dot and I tried to rough zero the dot prior to hitting the range. 
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mangosteenqueen

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2017, 02:48:16 PM »
Personally I would not play with that idea and just wait til you finally have the money for a 2nd red dot. It saves money than wasting ammo getting it to zero to different uppers. Sure you can count the clicks and/or use irons for a mechanical zero as mentioned but that’s quite inconvenient and gives you the little anxiety that it’s not really zeroed by fire.
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zippz

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2017, 10:36:41 PM »
Quote from: Bota-CS1 on October 19, 2017, 12:59:28 PM
I think you have to think about this from a "worst case" scenario where you're forced to use this rifle and red dot to shoot an intruder because you're in fear for your life.  You willing to trust your life on this?  :wacko:  I second what WTFShane said and get a second red dot optic for your new rifle.

Depends.  If would most likely still be more accurate than using a handgun for self defense at close distances.  If that level of accuracy is not acceptable, then people shouldn't be using handguns for self defense.
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Bota-CS1

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2017, 10:56:08 AM »
Quote from: zippz on October 27, 2017, 10:36:41 PM
Depends.  If would most likely still be more accurate than using a handgun for self defense at close distances. 

Say whaat??  People may be more comfortable using a long gun for self-defense distances, however a gun with uncalibrated sights is still a gun with uncalibrated sights.  I'm not saying you won't hit sh*t, but you've just made it harder on yourself.  The bottom line is you have to have absolute confidence in your equipment and that the bullet is going to go where the little red dot says it will.  You are responsible for every round that comes out of that gun - rifle or handgun.


« Last Edit: October 28, 2017, 11:36:45 AM by Bota-CS1 »
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zippz

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2017, 11:06:12 AM »
Quote from: Bota-CS1 on October 28, 2017, 10:56:08 AM
He’s not talking about handguns.   :stopjack:

You brought the issue up of accuracy for self-defense uses, I answered it by comparing the rifle inaccuracy to a known item.
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Bota-CS1

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2017, 11:38:39 AM »
Quote from: zippz on October 28, 2017, 11:06:12 AM
You brought the issue up of accuracy for self-defense uses, I answered it by comparing the rifle inaccuracy to a known item.

Again Zippz, he wanted advice about having one red dot for two different RIFLES.  Please stay on topic.  :stopjack:
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No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

ren

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2017, 04:36:45 PM »
a rifle without sights or optic is incomplete like a car without a steering wheel.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2017, 05:08:10 PM »
Quote from: ren on October 28, 2017, 04:36:45 PM
a rifle without sights or optic is incomplete like a car without a steering wheel.

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zippz

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2017, 08:58:37 AM »
Another option is to buy a budget RDO for now, assuming your OP referred to getting a 2nd premium one.  Get something like a Bushnell trs25 for about $75.  Those are great RDOs for the price.  Accurate, durable, and bright  enough for range use.

Later you may stick with it if its good enough for your uses.  Or sell it to buy another RDO later and you won't be out much money.
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mangosteenqueen

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2017, 10:44:18 AM »
Quote from: zippz on October 29, 2017, 08:58:37 AM
Another option is to buy a budget RDO for now, assuming your OP referred to getting a 2nd premium one.  Get something like a Bushnell trs25 for about $75.  Those are great RDOs for the price.  Accurate, durable, and bright  enough for range use.

Later you may stick with it if its good enough for your uses.  Or sell it to buy another RDO later and you won't be out much money.

Nah I would go for the primary arms micro for roughly $10 more, it’ll take more of a beating than the bushy and the quality seems more consistent based on my sample of 1 plus reviews by other people, and they stand by their warranty.

But seriously, budget optic or buy some irons since most folks would put flip up sights with a red dot.
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drck1000

Re: 2 rifles, but ONE optic?
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2017, 10:12:20 AM »
I am close to finishing putting together my Colt/BCM.  The red dot that is going on it came off of a DDM4 V5, so will be able to see how much difference.  I would guess that it would be on paper at 50 yards.  Will see when I take the gun to zero the dot. 
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