Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum (Read 2837 times)

PowerStroke2016

Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum
« on: February 21, 2018, 05:31:44 AM »
Sends Memorandum to Atty General to Ban devices that can make / resemble fire similar to machinegun.

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punaperson

Re: Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 07:43:37 AM »
Sounds just like our legislators here in committees: Review all public testimony/comments and then do as we damn well please (i.e. totally disregarding public input).  :wtf:

The public comments re the bumpstock regulation as automatic weapons via regulatory fiat ran something like 85% against...

https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/atf-bump-stock-regulation-comments-analysis/

That article claims ATF received 36,000 comments, not the 100,000 quoted by Trump's memorandum.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 08:33:49 AM »
This is a misdirection by Trump.  He knows the ATF ruled twice that they can't make them illegal. It's "The art of the deal".

PalisadesKid

Re: Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 05:02:25 PM »
All I see in this statement is "BANNING ALL DEVICES".

So Trump is giving carte blanche for the ATF to openly define with increases the rate of fire for a semi-auto.

NOT GOOD.

BTW, is Rand Paul running in 2020?

punaperson

Re: Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 06:26:34 AM »
Here is the latest from the "New York liberal elite" president (proposing the same thing Clinton would have, I'm sure):

Trump calls for arming teachers, raising gun purchase age to stop ‘savage sicko’ shooters


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/trump-calls-for-arming-teachers-raising-gun-purchase-age-to-stop-savage-sicko-shooters.html

Excerpts:

President Trump on Thursday defended his call to arm some teachers as a way to stop a “savage sicko” from causing mass casualties, while also calling for gun control measures -- including raising the age for purchasing firearms to 21.

“I never said ‘give teachers guns’ like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving ‘concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience- only the best,” Trump tweeted.

“20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to immediately fire back if a savage sicko came to a school with bad intentions. Highly trained teachers would also serve as a deterrent to the cowards that do this. Far more assets at much less cost than guards,” Trump added. “A ‘gun free’ school is a magnet for bad people. ATTACKS WOULD END!”

Trump said Wednesday that “a gun-free zone to a maniac, they’re all cowards, is 'let’s go in and attack because bullets aren’t coming at us.'”

On Thursday, he tweeted: “History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/ coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!”

Minutes later, Trump added: “If a potential ‘sicko shooter’ knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school. Cowards won’t go there…problem solved. Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work.”

At the same time, Trump made clear Thursday that he will urge several new gun law restrictions -- including raising the age for purchasing firearms, something sources said he was considering.

“I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health,” Trump tweeted Thursday. “Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue—I hope!”

* * * * *
Of course I don't agree with raising the age or a "bumpstock ban", but apparently this is what might happen, and I hope some speculators are correct that this is a strategic move to accomplish more on other fronts as Trump will get "something" done on "gun control" that Obama didn't do in 8 years... and have a possible effect on the midterm elections and his agenda going forward. Maybe.

PowerStroke2016

Re: Trump Signs Bump Stuck Memorandum
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 07:11:55 AM »
Here is the latest from the "New York liberal elite" president (proposing the same thing Clinton would have, I'm sure):

Trump calls for arming teachers, raising gun purchase age to stop ‘savage sicko’ shooters


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/trump-calls-for-arming-teachers-raising-gun-purchase-age-to-stop-savage-sicko-shooters.html

Excerpts:

President Trump on Thursday defended his call to arm some teachers as a way to stop a “savage sicko” from causing mass casualties, while also calling for gun control measures -- including raising the age for purchasing firearms to 21.

“I never said ‘give teachers guns’ like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving ‘concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience- only the best,” Trump tweeted.

“20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to immediately fire back if a savage sicko came to a school with bad intentions. Highly trained teachers would also serve as a deterrent to the cowards that do this. Far more assets at much less cost than guards,” Trump added. “A ‘gun free’ school is a magnet for bad people. ATTACKS WOULD END!”

Trump said Wednesday that “a gun-free zone to a maniac, they’re all cowards, is 'let’s go in and attack because bullets aren’t coming at us.'”

On Thursday, he tweeted: “History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/ coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!”

Minutes later, Trump added: “If a potential ‘sicko shooter’ knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school. Cowards won’t go there…problem solved. Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work.”

At the same time, Trump made clear Thursday that he will urge several new gun law restrictions -- including raising the age for purchasing firearms, something sources said he was considering.

“I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health,” Trump tweeted Thursday. “Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue—I hope!”

* * * * *
Of course I don't agree with raising the age or a "bumpstock ban", but apparently this is what might happen, and I hope some speculators are correct that this is a strategic move to accomplish more on other fronts as Trump will get "something" done on "gun control" that Obama didn't do in 8 years... and have a possible effect on the midterm elections and his agenda going forward. Maybe.
We'll get to see what Trump means when he speaks at CPAC tomorrow?

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