I saw this on facebook,
It is an interesting testimony of a guy who was going to go on a school shooting but didn't. He was ready to die killing a bunch of people at school.

He stated that he wasn't able to go on a shooting because he couldn't get his hands on a gun but I think the rest of what he said was more powerful about what pushed him that direction and what helped him overcome.

I refuse to buy into this lie.

Quit trying to put the responsibility for these acts of pure evil on us for "Not being Kind Enough".

That's Bullshit of the highest order. YOU make the decision, YOU bear the responsibility.

There is NO excuse for taking the lives of others without cause. The fact that YOU have "Issues" is irrelevant.

Take your puling, sniveling cowardice somewhere else and sell it, we're full up here.

I refuse to buy into this lie.

Quit trying to put the responsibility for these acts of pure evil on us for "Not being Kind Enough".

That's Bullshit of the highest order. YOU make the decision, YOU bear the responsibility.

There is NO excuse for taking the lives of others without cause. The fact that YOU have "Issues" is irrelevant.

Take your puling, sniveling cowardice somewhere else and sell it, we're full up here.

What lie? You think he just made that all up? You think he was never going to shoot up the school? You think he is just a good actor able to summon fake tears?

This is not about blame, he isn't suggesting it was someone else fault, he is just telling the circumstances that led to what he was going to do.

Sure, we can take the moral high ground and say it would have been his decision and his responsibility but that doesn't change the fact of what he was going to do. You can point a finger at a drug addict and tell them about how it is their fault if you want, but do you think that will stop them from using drugs? So what difference do you think it will make if you tell a would-be school shooter the same thing? The goal is trying to get them to take a different course of action, not to say how we think the situation should be.

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What lie? You think he just made that all up? You think he was never going to shoot up the school? You think he is just a good actor able to summon fake tears?

This is not about blame, he isn't suggesting it was someone else fault, he is just telling the circumstances that led to what he was going to do.

Sure, we can take the moral high ground and say it would have been his decision and his responsibility but that doesn't change the fact of what he was going to do. You can point a finger at a drug addict and tell them about how it is their fault if you want, but do you think that will stop them from using drugs? So what difference do you think it will make if you tell a would-be school shooter the same thing? The goal is trying to get them to take a different course of action, not to say how we think the situation should be.

Yeah, I do. Because people like this are experts at the manipulation of others.

His "Story" is designed to make you feel bad that you didn't "Do More" to dissuade him from his own choice of actions, actions he knew very well were wrong.

You make the comparison between people like this and drug addicts. It's an accurate one. I know because I've fought that battle before. I was the guy pulling that person out of bad situations at 3 in the morning. I was the one hoping they wouldn't find the money to buy more drugs. I lived it. I DO point the finger at them and declare it their responsibility, because it is. It's their decision, their choice whether to end it or not. Until they've made that choice there is nothing anyone else can do. They WILL use your feelings to manipulate you to get what they want. You can't "Convince" them not to do it. It has to be their own decision or it doesn't work.

I know this from experience. Unless you can tell me you've been through the same, in my opinion you know fuck all about it.

Yeah, I do. Because people like this are experts at the manipulation of others.

His "Story" is designed to make you feel bad that you didn't "Do More" to dissuade him from his own choice of actions, actions he knew very well were wrong.

You make the comparison between people like this and drug addicts. It's an accurate one. I know because I've fought that battle before. I was the guy pulling that person out of bad situations at 3 in the morning. I was the one hoping they wouldn't find the money to buy more drugs. I lived it. I DO point the finger at them and declare it their responsibility, because it is. It's their decision, their choice whether to end it or not. Until they've made that choice there is nothing anyone else can do. They WILL use your feelings to manipulate you to get what they want. You can't "Convince" them not to do it. It has to be their own decision or it doesn't work.

I know this from experience. Unless you can tell me you've been through the same, in my opinion you know fuck all about it.

Sorry Ed but I see no reason to believe that this man is lying. Sure anything is possible but there's no evidence to support this.

I don't think his intentions are to make us feel bad either. My takeaway from his testimony is not blame but what helped. I think you are right that if a drug dealer doesn't want to stop his drug habit then it's his choice and we can't make him. It is his responsibility but that doesn't mean we can't help. This friend you mentioned helping at 3 a.m., did he or she ever kick the rabbit? If so do you think the support you gave them made no difference?

If someone we love commits suicide we can stand back and say it was their choice and sure we would be correct. But they would also be dead and we suffering their absence when perhaps we could have made a difference. I just don't think deciding responsibility does anything to help the goal of preventing the Carnage. I'm not sure if we can come to an agreement about this so I will leave it at that.

If he couldn't get his hands on a gun, and that was the only thing stopping him from murder, then I call BS.  He's either totally incompetent and can't figure out how to get a gun when thousands before him have, or he's so fucking lazy that he's not going to do anything that isn't easy, like buying a gun at the local 7-11 along with his 2-liter soda and double chili cheese dog.

It wasn't for lack of accessibility.  It was from lack of trying that he didn't (not couldn't) get a gun.

Spare me the false causation conclusions.  Not having a gun didn't stop anything.  If he was as smart as he pretends, he'd have been able to produce pipe bombs, set a fire, almost anything else if he was truly homicidal.

I agree. 
If he really wanted to,  he would have figured out a way to reach his goal.
He must be lazy or unmotivated.

Nowadays, people do anything and say anything on the internet to get attention.
Eg. Tide pods

I agree. 
If he really wanted to,  he would have figured out a way to reach his goal.
He must be lazy or unmotivated.

I guess he could have been lazy but he did say he was basically dirt poor so he might not have had the money to get one through some black market. When I was in high school I don't know where I would have gotten a gun but I didn't know anyone who owned one. Where would you have known to get a gun when you were a teenager?

I think there may also be a window to someone's bad intentions and if the window is missed they won't carry it out. Some Mass Killers definitely plan for a long time what they are going to do but if this was more of a spontaneous idea from him he may have changed his mind by the time he could have figured out how to get a gun.

If he couldn't get his hands on a gun, and that was the only thing stopping him from murder, then I call BS.  He's either totally incompetent and can't figure out how to get a gun when thousands before him have, or he's so fucking lazy that he's not going to do anything that isn't easy, like buying a gun at the local 7-11 along with his 2-liter soda and double chili cheese dog.

It wasn't for lack of accessibility.  It was from lack of trying that he didn't (not couldn't) get a gun.

Spare me the false causation conclusions.  Not having a gun didn't stop anything.  If he was as smart as he pretends, he'd have been able to produce pipe bombs, set a fire, almost anything else if he was truly homicidal.

Sounds like you disagree because it doesn't fit your narrative. Not everyone thinks just like you so it is reaching to suggest that if he really meant it he should have behaved in some proscribed way. People in these situations aren't always thinking straight so what makes you think he will behave in a way you think you must behave?

I guess he could have been lazy but he did say he was basically dirt poor so he might not have had the money to get one through some black market. When I was in high school I don't know where I would have gotten a gun but I didn't know anyone who owned one. Where would you have known to get a gun when you were a teenager?

I think there may also be a window to someone's bad intentions and if the window is missed they won't carry it out. Some Mass Killers definitely plan for a long time what they are going to do but if this was more of a spontaneous idea from him he may have changed his mind by the time he could have figured out how to get a gun.

I would have asked the drug dealers or C-base kids.

Heck if he was dead set he could have went home and got a kitchen knife or drove moms car through the after school crowd.
He could have used the landscapers shovel. 
Anything really. 

That little insert about the assault weapon access seemed so out of place.  The guy generally doesnt seem to be anti gun or anything of the sort (I wonder if he has a firearm to protect his family?) and the fact that he insincerely read his monologue off his phone with Jimmey Kimmel-like tears (scripted by his puppetmaster?) makes my bullshit detector go crazy. 

If he didnt carry out the mass murdering act, its because hes not a mass murderer and came to his senses, not because he didnt have a gun.  Gun control knuckleheads always tout 'common sense', yet they are the ones who seem to lack it the most.  Its not like the evil black rifle was invented last year and is now taking the school-shooter market by storm.

I believe that he was probably bullied to an extreme, and may have fantasized or even entertained thoughts of murder.  These types of ideas are not uncommon in human beings, especially among troubled teens. 

Where I take contention is the part where he states that the only reason he did not commit murder was due to lack of being able to access an "assault rifle."    Now if we even dismiss the actual definitions of "assault rifle," he could have just as successfully committed mass murder, with or without firearms.   

Instead, he chose to jump the Shark and land right in the political anti-gun narrative being pushed today.  The "assault rifle" comment killed his credibility in my eyes, and I also feel that it tarnishes his actual experiences from which I have no doubt was traumatic and had great value on its own merit as a learning experience for others.  Instead, in the end, I come away with a feeling of skepticism of his motive and detracts from the very real problems and struggles that certain kids endure in school and in life. 

I believe that he was probably bullied to an extreme, and may have fantasized or even entertained thoughts of murder.  These types of ideas are not uncommon in human beings, especially among troubled teens. 

Where I take contention is the part where he states that the only reason he did not commit murder was due to lack of being able to access an "assault rifle."    Now if we even dismiss the actual definitions of "assault rifle," he could have just as successfully committed mass murder, with or without firearms.   

Instead, he chose to jump the Shark and land right in the political anti-gun narrative being pushed today.  The "assault rifle" comment killed his credibility in my eyes, and I also feel that it tarnishes his actual experiences from which I have no doubt was traumatic and had great value on its own merit as a learning experience for others.  Instead, in the end, I come away with a feeling of skepticism of his motive and detracts from the very real problems and struggles that certain kids endure in school and in life.

I can agree with you there, that he seems to have made the leap into the gun control issue there but I also think his tears and pain were genuine and that the rest of what he said matters.