Social Media and the 2A (Read 6540 times)

changemyoil66

Social Media and the 2A
« on: February 20, 2018, 10:01:22 AM »
When ever there is a mass shooting, all the SJW's come out and want guns banned.  I don't typically respond to these post because it just ends up going in circles.  Can't change their minds, even with facts.

What I do is instead select which post I respond to.  If the person seems to have an open mind, then I provide info and refrain from posting angry things (be professional).  I have changed 3 peoples views on  gun ownership within the last week about the school shooting, and all 3 responded with the "wow, I never knew/thought about that".

I don't mind that someone doesn't like guns, but don't try and take mine away just because you don't like them.  Just don't buy them.

Do you guys do the same?

ren

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2018, 10:25:39 AM »
In my opinion, I think that these SJWs will manage to have a nationwide ban on all firearms in a generation or two. They've managed to "change" our minds on all other issues. They've even attacked faith to garner support on gender and marriage issues. No matter what President is in office, they've learned a long time ago that media is the key to winning the popular society - and they own the media. I think it is very disgraceful for any media network to outwardly bash any President simply because it doesn't fit a certain agenda. But the media has a thing against guns and President Trump. The hypocrisy is there but well veiled. Gun laws already exist to ban guns in schools. Since that didn't work they want more laws, laws that will infringe on our 2A. They don't care about your rights. Their emotions matter much more than that. I'm preaching to the choir but they don't realize that the root cause of this - is ONE sick, criminal person who managed to do this because he was crazy and soft as day old Cocoa Puffs in a mud puddle. I don't care if he has mental health issues. It wasn't a problem till he murdered these people. But one thing for sure if it was a school my kids attended I'd be there armed to protect them. Why not?
Unfortunately many don't share that same rational view. A kid misbehaves and we don't blame the kid anymore - there must be something else to blame. Give them a pill. Send them to a shrink. Then that parent will get a gold star for awesome parenting <sarcasm>

I really hope my opinion is wrong.
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ren

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2018, 10:58:54 AM »
on the CNN there were 2 people who destroyed a semi auto pistol and an AR15. They urged others to do the same.  :crazy: :grrr:

I wouldn't be surprised if other nations are involved in the anti2A campaigns, after all, it would serve in their best interest.
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robtmc

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2018, 11:22:26 AM »
In my opinion, I think that these SJWs will manage to have a nationwide ban on all firearms in a generation or two.

I really hope my opinion is wrong.
Likely not, other than for a few areas.  I will be dead by then, either old age, or from refusing to disarm.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 12:07:24 PM by robtmc »

drck1000

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2018, 12:20:11 PM »
When ever there is a mass shooting, all the SJW's come out and want guns banned.  I don't typically respond to these post because it just ends up going in circles.  Can't change their minds, even with facts.

What I do is instead select which post I respond to.  If the person seems to have an open mind, then I provide info and refrain from posting angry things (be professional).  I have changed 3 peoples views on  gun ownership within the last week about the school shooting, and all 3 responded with the "wow, I never knew/thought about that".

I don't mind that someone doesn't like guns, but don't try and take mine away just because you don't like them.  Just don't buy them.

Do you guys do the same?
Yeah. I generally do the same.  I mostly stay away, but once in a while I'll chime in to point out some obvious "bad info" and even then, usually with a friend who has an open mind on the matter. Stranger, staying away from.  A friend who has the "I know what I know, don't confuse me with the facts mentality", staying away from. 

I too have had civil discussion with some anti-2A "friends" in the past week and have enlightened them as to parts of the 2A and my perspective as a firearms enthusiast.  Have to get over the whole being lumped into the same "your side" grouping with mass shooters, criminals who use firearms, etc.  Have opened some eyes along the way.  Maybe not to the point of convincing anyone to go from anti to pro-2A, but at least accepting and understanding.  I've found that many anti-2A are generally ignorant of the many laws currently already in place.  Loop holes, being able to buy guns directly off internet, etc. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 03:31:08 PM »
When ever there is a mass shooting, all the SJW's come out and want guns banned.  I don't typically respond to these post because it just ends up going in circles.  Can't change their minds, even with facts.

What I do is instead select which post I respond to.  If the person seems to have an open mind, then I provide info and refrain from posting angry things (be professional).  I have changed 3 peoples views on  gun ownership within the last week about the school shooting, and all 3 responded with the "wow, I never knew/thought about that".

I don't mind that someone doesn't like guns, but don't try and take mine away just because you don't like them.  Just don't buy them.

Do you guys do the same?

I respond to all sorts knowing that some I won't convince but there are those who may or may not reply that will learn something and perhaps be swayed. How you communicate make a difference too.

I have been pleasantly surprised by how many pro 2nd amendment people I see on facebook. Even my militantly Bernie Sanders supporting gun enthusiast friend.

All_rice

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 03:26:19 PM »
You guys should see the mess on Twitter. Shitz, hanabata, lazie, gabbard, etc. none of the people posting can come carry on a educated discussion with out calling me names and saying their done with me.
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Heavies

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 09:46:24 PM »
If you are on FB, take note of all the non local and fake accounts making Anti gun comments and straight up lies.......   Paid trolls? Russians?  WTF?

punaperson

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 05:52:21 AM »
If you are on FB, take note of all the non local and fake accounts making Anti gun comments and straight up lies.......   Paid trolls? Russians?  WTF?
A familiar pattern? Russian trolls on Twitter ‘rile’ Americans on gun violence

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/article201646339.html

Excerpt:

An organization that monitors Russian trolling has spotted a peculiar similarity between certain types of social media postings that went up immediately after the Oct. 1 Las Vegas festival shootings and again after last week’s shootings at a school in Parkland, Fla.

The pattern: A day after the tragedy, the trolls tweet on all sides of the gun control debate. A day later, they push conspiracy theories.

It’s a formula designed to stir up emotions over mass violence and gun laws, and more broadly to foment anger and exasperation over the U.S. political system.

“The purpose is to stoke tensions,” said Bret Schafer of the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which is financing researchers following 600 or so Twitter accounts suspected of being operated by Russian “trolls” — pro-Kremlin mouthpieces aiming to encourage discord in the United States.

“It is also bait to attract a larger following from American users by talking about issues that we care about.”

The 600 accounts monitored by the project known as Hamilton 68 put out an average of 20,000 tweets a day, Schafer said, and they often focus on hot topics that divide Americans.

Teichi

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 10:02:38 AM »
I posted about the MSNBC Poll about arming teachers. I immediately attracted flak.

Garuda

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 05:32:58 PM »
I’m not sure if everyone realizes the magnitude of what’s going on.

Both the 1A and 2A are under HEAVY attack.

MAC downed his channel since YouTube sent him a strike.

Disarmed and silenced. That’s the ultimate goal. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

ren

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changemyoil66

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2018, 01:24:53 PM »
I wonder how high school kids can organize a march that quickly and be verified on twitter.  Even though Julian Assagne is still in the proccess of being verified...

ren

Re: Social Media and the 2A
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2018, 01:26:27 PM »
A familiar pattern? Russian trolls on Twitter ‘rile’ Americans on gun violence

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/article201646339.html

Excerpt:

An organization that monitors Russian trolling has spotted a peculiar similarity between certain types of social media postings that went up immediately after the Oct. 1 Las Vegas festival shootings and again after last week’s shootings at a school in Parkland, Fla.

The pattern: A day after the tragedy, the trolls tweet on all sides of the gun control debate. A day later, they push conspiracy theories.

It’s a formula designed to stir up emotions over mass violence and gun laws, and more broadly to foment anger and exasperation over the U.S. political system.

“The purpose is to stoke tensions,” said Bret Schafer of the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which is financing researchers following 600 or so Twitter accounts suspected of being operated by Russian “trolls” — pro-Kremlin mouthpieces aiming to encourage discord in the United States.

“It is also bait to attract a larger following from American users by talking about issues that we care about.”

The 600 accounts monitored by the project known as Hamilton 68 put out an average of 20,000 tweets a day, Schafer said, and they often focus on hot topics that divide Americans.

that is exactly what is going on
A lot of people don't realize it but these foreign countries hold an interest in dissolving our country's values. We're just too blind to see it. We easily sell ourselves out. Not only on the social media front but I wouldn't be surprised that anti2A groups like Bloomberg are infused with foreign money.
Let's look at current "racism" and the BLM. Do we really have racism? We have a whole channel dedicated to BLACK viewers; imagine if we had a White Entertainment Channel? Yep. Racist. We have black celebrities. Black billionaires. Then all of a sudden after the Arab Spring, racism is an issue.
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