In a previous thread there was talk about having a 2a discussion with Tupola who is running for Governor.  https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=30142.0.  She's having a gubenatorial discussion at HPU (aloha tower) on August 2nd 6pm to 7:30pm so I could see if she wants to have a short discussion with us after the event.  She's currently in the lead for the Republican side for Governor and may have a shot against Hanabusa if everyone gets on board. 

Seeing if we can get a good showing, maybe 20 people.  Who's interested?

Sounds good.

In a previous thread there was talk about having a 2a discussion with Tupola who is running for Governor.  https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=30142.0.  She's having a gubenatorial discussion at HPU (aloha tower) on August 2nd 6pm to 7:30pm so I could see if she wants to have a short discussion with us after the event.  She's currently in the lead for the Republican side for Governor and may have a shot against Hanabusa if everyone gets on board. 

Seeing if we can get a good showing, maybe 20 people.  Who's interested?

Try not to flood her with excessive firearm related questions, aside from essential core issues she may actually have an influence on. People get lost in the fantasy of what couldbe/should be vs How things really are,  and forget that even with executive powers of veto,  the legislature is under the complete control of the democrats, and wiill easily get the votes to bypass her vetos; especially with regards to firearms. Its common sense for her not to prioritize issues that she knows she can't guarantee mass support from the people on.

There are significantly more important issues that need to be addressed,  as well as potential legislation she could support and highlight,  that can be utilized to benefit multiple issues,  to include 2a rights. If you get selected for a question,  reflect prior to asking if your question will have cascading beneficial effects, regardless of if its 2a related or not.

Try not to flood her with excessive firearm related questions, aside from essential core issues she may actually have an influence on. People get lost in the fantasy of what couldbe/should be vs How things really are,  and forget that even with executive powers of veto,  the legislature is under the complete control of the democrats, and wiill easily get the votes to bypass her vetos; especially with regards to firearms. Its common sense for her not to prioritize issues that she knows she can't guarantee mass support from the people on.

There are significantly more important issues that need to be addressed,  as well as potential legislation she could support and highlight,  that can be utilized to benefit multiple issues,  to include 2a rights. If you get selected for a question,  reflect prior to asking if your question will have cascading beneficial effects, regardless of if its 2a related or not.

This would take place after the event.  Show a large supporting presence, get support from her, and ask her 2a related questions and vice versa.  Of course there are more important issues, such as the pension crisis and housing affordability, however those would be answered during the main event.

This would take place after the event.  Show a large supporting presence, get support from her, and ask her 2a related questions and vice versa.  Of course there are more important issues, such as the pension crisis and housing affordability, however those would be answered during the main event.

Even those are major talking points for the other side, of which both sides will make promises they don't intend to fulfill,  or have ulterior motives for.

I think it is extremely important to ask 2a related questions during the event, as it will be televised to a larger audience, and will force the candidates to provide an answer that will be documented.

I'm simply suggesting to focus on major 2a talking points that can be addressed and potentially influenced by Tupola, if she is elected. There are individuals who seem to live in a fantasy realm of what they think should happen or how things should be, rather than how things are, and will ask questions she can't answer,  or demand policy she won't be able to implement due to the Democrat controlled legislature. They may take this as non support for our issues, and may also call for others to not support her.

I'm simply suggesting to focus on major 2a talking points that can be addressed and potentially influenced by Tupola, if she is elected. There are individuals who seem to live in a fantasy realm of what they think should happen or how things should be, rather than how things are, and will ask questions she can't answer,  or demand policy she won't be able to implement due to the Democrat controlled legislature. They may take this as non support for our issues, and may also call for others to not support her.

That's a good idea having a question in the main event.  A generic question is best to allow freedom for her to answer like What is your position on gun rights and how will you protect those rights.  Send an email to her to give a heads up that the question will be asked.  I'll try and do the same for Ige.

I was expecting more participation here, but I guess support for Tupola dropped off, people expect her to lose, or do people here back Ige since he's the person most likely to win?  I don't think she'll be a fierce advocate for gun rights, but she's much better than Ige and Hanabusa

That's a good idea having a question in the main event.  A generic question is best to allow freedom for her to answer like What is your position on gun rights and how will you protect those rights.  Send an email to her to give a heads up that the question will be asked.  I'll try and do the same for Ige.

I was expecting more participation here, but I guess support for Tupola dropped off, people expect her to lose, or do people here back Ige since he's the person most likely to win?  I don't think she'll be a fierce advocate for gun rights, but she's much better than Ige and Hanabusa

I know when i initially introduced the idea of the 2a community meeting with with Tupola, there was resistance right off the back from members on this forum for quite ridiculous reasons.

Going to cancel the project since there is no interest.  Ill still be attending and encourage you to do too.

Going to cancel the project since there is no interest.  Ill still be attending and encourage you to do too.

Would have gone but I’ll be laid up when the event takes place. That being said I snail mailed a list of questions for her headquarters on a number of topics with the majority being local  2A questions. Mailed day before yesterday registered, return receipt requested. At least I know that she or a member of her staff, got it. Way I figure if I dont get a reply then I’ll have a pretty good idea where she stands......

Did anyone see her and he other 2 candidates on pbs last night? She said some good things about Hawaii and the 2a.

Couple things I noticed about the discussion on PBS.  None of the Republican candidates for governor criticized each other and focused on the question being asked.  The Dumocrats always are ridiculing each other.  All of them liked and support Trump.  All of them are pro 2A.  In fact John Carroll said he owns 44 weapons.  I remember him from the 1970s when he was a captain at Hawaiian Airlines.  To me only Tupola has a chance.  Carroll is way too old and the other guy, L'Heurex or something has no name recognition.  I think Tupola will be the Rep candidate, probably against Ige.  She is definitely a lot easier on the eyes than Ige or Hanabusa.

Couple things I noticed about the discussion on PBS.  None of the Republican candidates for governor criticized each other and focused on the question being asked.  The Dumocrats always are ridiculing each other.  All of them liked and support Trump.  All of them are pro 2A.  In fact John Carroll said he owns 44 weapons.  I remember him from the 1970s when he was a captain at Hawaiian Airlines.  To me only Tupola has a chance.  Carroll is way too old and the other guy, L'Heurex or something has no name recognition.  I think Tupola will be the Rep candidate, probably against Ige.  She is definitely a lot easier on the eyes than Ige or Hanabusa.

Hanabusu looks like a japanese kappa!

Couple things I noticed about the discussion on PBS.  None of the Republican candidates for governor criticized each other and focused on the question being asked.  The Dumocrats always are ridiculing each other.  All of them liked and support Trump.  All of them are pro 2A.  In fact John Carroll said he owns 44 weapons.  I remember him from the 1970s when he was a captain at Hawaiian Airlines.  To me only Tupola has a chance.  Carroll is way too old and the other guy, L'Heurex or something has no name recognition.  I think Tupola will be the Rep candidate, probably against Ige.  She is definitely a lot easier on the eyes than Ige or Hanabusa.

I thought Carroll did look super and sound old.  But he was on channel 6 last night and when asked about issues, he seemed to be very knowledgeable and had actual answers to how to help.  Not the typical politician BS stuff "we need to help our XXX, or focus on XXX" with no real solution.

He mentioned to make goods cheaper, we need to remove restrictions on shipping.  I never researched into what restrictions he's talking about but it sounded like he knew what's holding us up.

For Tupuloa, she did mention in a email I sent her asking her stance that she is a gun owner and takes the 2a seriously.  I posted a thread a while ago about this.

Tupola appealed to the racers years ago about building a race track, and doing research, and other things to get a race track built here
since then I don't hear anything about any race track from her
I don't really trust what she says as far as campaign promises go.  I don't really trust anyone with campaign promises.  I go by their history of actions.
sorry to say that we have very limited choices here.

Tupola appealed to the racers years ago about building a race track, and doing research, and other things to get a race track built here
since then I don't hear anything about any race track from her
I don't really trust what she says as far as campaign promises go.  I don't really trust anyone with campaign promises.  I go by their history of actions.
sorry to say that we have very limited choices here.

I know of 1 guy who is delivering on more campaign promises than anyone else...

I thought Carroll did look super and sound old.  But he was on channel 6 last night and when asked about issues, he seemed to be very knowledgeable and had actual answers to how to help.  Not the typical politician BS stuff "we need to help our XXX, or focus on XXX" with no real solution.

He mentioned to make goods cheaper, we need to remove restrictions on shipping.  I never researched into what restrictions he's talking about but it sounded like he knew what's holding us up.

For Tupuloa, she did mention in a email I sent her asking her stance that she is a gun owner and takes the 2a seriously.  I posted a thread a while ago about this.

I believe Carroll was talking about the jones act.  Also about Hawaii's GE tax.  Which if you look into it is bogus. We pay multiple taxes for the same item.  He also spoke about he stevedores and their hold on Hawaii, something along the lines of limiting their power.

I believe Carroll was talking about the jones act.  Also about Hawaii's GE tax.  Which if you look into it is bogus. We pay multiple taxes for the same item.  He also spoke about he stevedores and their hold on Hawaii, something along the lines of limiting their power.

My problem with Carroll is that he is totally fixated on the Jones Act (watch any interview/debate) believing it would solve everything from housing and living costs to homelessness and the traffic problems.

     I like L'Heurex and asked hm a few questions to which he responded to immediately.

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Thats what amazed me, he has an actual plan. Even if no work, its a plan. Vs just saying we need to fix the problem, with no how to.

Like build a wall, at least thats a plan. Compared to "we need stricter border control, etc..."

I believe Carroll was talking about the jones act.  Also about Hawaii's GE tax.  Which if you look into it is bogus. We pay multiple taxes for the same item.  He also spoke about he stevedores and their hold on Hawaii, something along the lines of limiting their power.

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I voted for Carroll myself. He actually called me one night (he was canvassing potential voters) and we talked at great length about his political views and candidacy. Probably spent close to an hour talking to him. I invited him out to shoot with us (He never came out) and told him I would vote for him. I doubt he will win over Tupola. But I have kept my promise. If he wins the primary, I will vote for him again. If Tupola wins, I will have to rethink my voting strategy.