16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma (Read 1931 times)

punaperson

16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« on: February 27, 2019, 09:34:03 PM »
Sixteenth state. No license. No permit. No training. No nothing. Free to exercise the right to bear arms, uninfringed. Where's the goddamned "Wild West"? I'm sending this to every state legislator and asking them to be sure to inform me when the Wild West breaks out in Oklahoma. Or South Dakota. Or the other 14 states that have permitless carry.

[Here's what I wrote, followed by the article below:

Legislator,

Sixteenth state. No license. No permit. No training. No nothing. Free to exercise the right to bear arms, uninfringed. Where's the ever-promised "Wild West" (according to certain Hawaii legislators)? I'm asking you, as a legislator who refuses to repeal Hawaii's unconstitutional gun control laws, to please be sure to inform me when the "Wild West" breaks out in Oklahoma. Or South Dakota. Or the other 14 states that have had permitless carry for varying numbers of years, including Vermont which has ALWAYS been permitless carry since it became a state. Is Vermont the "Wild West"? If so, I guess that's a good thing because Hawaii (where not one single law-abiding citizen is allowed to lawfully bear firearms outside their home for self-defense) has a 23% HIGHER MURDER RATE THAN VERMONT (2017). Please explain that for me as you continue to pass more and more laws further infringing my already grossly infringed rights.

The only possible explanation for your unwillingness to restore my rights is that you must know something about the residents of Hawaii that makes them different from all other states that have permitless carry (16) or "shall issue" carry (42) where it turns out the people that carry are MORE LAW-ABIDING THAN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. Please tell me what you know about Hawaii residents that they are polar opposites of all other United States citizens. I really want to know.]


https://kfor.com/2019/02/27/permitless-carry-bill-passes-senate-heads-to-governors-desk/

Gov. Stitt signs permitless carry bill into law

OKLAHOMA CITY - A bill allowing permitless carry in Oklahoma has been signed into law, just hours after it passed the Oklahoma Senate.

"We want to make sure that we let Oklahomans know that we are going to protect their rights to bear arms," Governor Kevin Stitt said Wednesday.

House Bill 2597 allows for anyone age 21 or over to carry a firearm without a permit. The age requirement for veterans, active duty and reserve military personnel is 18 or over.

Presented by Senate majority floor leader Kim David, R-Porter, the measure passed the Senate floor on Wednesday by a vote of 40 to 6 after passing the Senate appropriations committee last Wednesday.

Sen. David stressed the bill doesn't change federal background checks required by law to purchase a firearm and private property owners will still have the right to allow or deny concealed or open carry on their premises.

"We allow for people in other states to be able to carry in this state without a permit," David said. "This bill simply allows law abiding citizens that wish to carry a weapon to be able to do that in our state also without paying for the permit."OKLAHOMA CITY - A bill allowing permitless carry in Oklahoma has been signed into law, just hours after it passed the Oklahoma Senate.

"We want to make sure that we let Oklahomans know that we are going to protect their rights to bear arms," Governor Kevin Stitt said Wednesday.

House Bill 2597 allows for anyone age 21 or over to carry a firearm without a permit. The age requirement for veterans, active duty and reserve military personnel is 18 or over.

Presented by Senate majority floor leader Kim David, R-Porter, the measure passed the Senate floor on Wednesday by a vote of 40 to 6 after passing the Senate appropriations committee last Wednesday.

Sen. David stressed the bill doesn't change federal background checks required by law to purchase a firearm and private property owners will still have the right to allow or deny concealed or open carry on their premises.

"We allow for people in other states to be able to carry in this state without a permit," David said. "This bill simply allows law abiding citizens that wish to carry a weapon to be able to do that in our state also without paying for the permit."

Supporters of the bill have stressed, while the bill doesn't require training, it does not stop anyone from seeking it.

"This legislation would allow law abiding citizens to keep and bear those arms without those infringements that we have," Sen. Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow said on the Senate floor. "It is the one right that says shall not be infringed and it is the one right that we infringe upon the most."

Some say the bill is long overdue.

"We’re hoping that this will be one of those things that we can start restoring these individual rights instead of downgrading them and pretending they’re a constitutional orphan," Alex Kearns with the Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Association told News 4 Wednesday.

« Last Edit: February 27, 2019, 09:54:30 PM by punaperson »

RSN172

Re: 16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 10:31:01 PM »
I bet you will get either no answer or a bullshit response. I just arrived in NV today and will enjoy the right to legally carry a concealed firearm for the next 14 days.
Happily living in Puna

punaperson

Re: 16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2019, 08:20:49 AM »
I bet you will get either no answer or a bullshit response. I just arrived in NV today and will enjoy the right to legally carry a concealed firearm for the next 14 days.
I've sent similar emails in the past when other states have gone permitless, but with much more extensive details re the stats on the law-abiding nature of the permit holders in those states issuing millions of permits (Florida and Texas). NEVER GOT A SINGLE RESPONSE. 0 for 76 every single time. Go figure. They know we are irresponsible, inept, incompetent, untrustworthy, unreliable, harebrained morons... but they won't tell me how they know this.

Enjoy exercising your rights while visiting the United States.  :shaka:

London808

Re: 16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2019, 08:24:09 AM »
We need the number to be 26 then 9th ammenedment.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

changemyoil66

Re: 16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2019, 11:08:39 AM »
I bet you will get either no answer or a bullshit response. I just arrived in NV today and will enjoy the right to legally carry a concealed firearm for the next 14 days.

Even though I lost my ass at the casino, I looked at it as a price to pay to get to exercise my 2a right.  So justifying losing my ass.

6716J

Re: 16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2019, 11:59:44 AM »
I bet you will get either no answer or a bullshit response. I just arrived in NV today and will enjoy the right to legally carry a concealed firearm for the next 14 days.

and openly should you desire that option
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

6716J

Re: 16th Permitless Carry State: Oklahoma
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2019, 12:05:41 PM »
We need the number to be 26 then 9th ammenedment.

Everyone forgets the 9th Amendment.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

 
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.