How to be a good witness (Read 2995 times)

ren

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6716J

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2021, 05:16:05 PM »
OR... How to rat out your neighbor and not have guilt
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

RSN172

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2021, 09:18:13 PM »
Well, HPD is on record saying they prefer people watching someone getting beaten or killed instead of getting involved.   Call 911 and be a good witness.   I'll remember that if I see a cop getting attacked.  Plus I can't help them anyway.  Local laws prevent us from having the means to defend ourselves in most situations and all of us obey the law.
Happily living in Puna

Flapp_Jackson

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2021, 09:40:56 PM »
Well, HPD is on record saying they prefer people watching someone getting beaten or killed instead of getting involved.   Call 911 and be a good witness.   I'll remember that if I see a cop getting attacked.  Plus I can't help them anyway.  Local laws prevent us from having the means to defend ourselves in most situations and all of us obey the law.

There are videos of people being beaten while the people taking the video do nothing except yell expletives like they are watching a show.  People want the video to post so it goes viral or they can sell it.  Using it to identify and convict the perp is not even an afterthought. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

RSN172

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2021, 10:22:37 PM »
We live in F'upped times, that's for sure.
Happily living in Puna

hvybarrels

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2021, 10:55:58 PM »
Just remember kids, the Miske syndicate was operating with police protection at the highest levels so it is possible that person you are about to rat out just might have access to the report. Who wants to go for a ride on the fishing boat?
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

changemyoil66

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 08:54:49 AM »
Don't rat out your law abiding neighbors.

had an example of that guy whos home kept getting broken into.  He drove his car a few blocks away so the driveway can seem like he's gone.  Hunkered down in his basement with Power Bars and Gatorade and waited for the criminals to break in, then lit them up.

His neighbors said that he told them of his plan.  So he was charged and convinced with murder 1 (premeditated).

groveler

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 09:29:49 AM »
Well, HPD is on record saying they prefer people watching someone getting beaten or killed instead of getting involved.   Call 911 and be a good witness.   I'll remember that if I see a cop getting attacked.  Plus I can't help them anyway.  Local laws prevent us from having the means to defend ourselves in most situations and all of us obey the law.
You are very wise.
The only thing I can truly say I dislike about Hawaii, is the government and it's enforcement agents(cops)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 10:35:28 AM »
Don't rat out your law abiding neighbors.

had an example of that guy whos home kept getting broken into.  He drove his car a few blocks away so the driveway can seem like he's gone.  Hunkered down in his basement with Power Bars and Gatorade and waited for the criminals to break in, then lit them up.

His neighbors said that he told them of his plan.  So he was charged and convinced with murder 1 (premeditated).

Glad he wasn't convicted.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2021, 10:39:57 AM »
Don't rat out your law abiding neighbors.

had an example of that guy whos home kept getting broken into.  He drove his car a few blocks away so the driveway can seem like he's gone.  Hunkered down in his basement with Power Bars and Gatorade and waited for the criminals to break in, then lit them up.

His neighbors said that he told them of his plan.  So he was charged and convinced with murder 1 (premeditated).

Fuckin neighbors.....
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 10:52:16 AM »
Rats like that cannot be reasoned with. They are proud of their stupidity and show it off every chance they get.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

changemyoil66

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2021, 11:40:36 AM »
Glad he wasn't convicted.   :rofl:

No focus

hvybarrels

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2021, 12:06:14 PM »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

eyeeatingfish

Re: How to be a good witness
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 09:00:22 PM »
Well, HPD is on record saying they prefer people watching someone getting beaten or killed instead of getting involved.   Call 911 and be a good witness.   I'll remember that if I see a cop getting attacked.  Plus I can't help them anyway.  Local laws prevent us from having the means to defend ourselves in most situations and all of us obey the law.

I think this sue happy culture we live in now pressures cops to officially have to advise against intervention. If not then someone might try to sue them if they got hurt trying to intervene.

I bet most actual beat officers would be thrilled to see people intervene.