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groveler

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2021, 05:09:56 PM »
Quote from: Kuleana on May 29, 2021, 03:57:36 PM
Keen observation, but I am glad that you did not value judge the advancements, by the race you give credit, as 100% positive, for the other races you refer.


Although I do believe the US empire still has some opportunity for advancing one's social-economic well-being, the days of being able to achieve the so-called American Dream are way long gone, for most people.

The gap between the have and have nots have only gotten worse; the standard of living may have gone-up for the middle class, but definitely not for the poor and homeless, government assistance notwithstanding; and education might be available for all, but most college students today will unfortunately be paying their students loans for many, of their working years, assuming they get a living wage job and not going bankrupt, in that process.


Professional athletes are outliers and should not be included in any tally, of a nation's social-economic opportunities.
Let's see.
VA and my employer paid for my tuition
at private universities.
I earned that.
I'm afraid I don't have a lot of sympathy
for Democrats getting social skills degrees
and expecting me to foot their bills.
How many of us here know how to execute a chain rule equation?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2021, 07:35:22 PM »
Quote from: groveler on May 29, 2021, 05:09:56 PM
Let's see.
VA and my employer paid for my tuition
at private universities.
I earned that.
I'm afraid I don't have a lot of sympathy
for Democrats getting social skills degrees
and expecting me to foot their bills.
How many of us here know how to execute a chain rule equation?

Never took Calculus.  My degree in Computer Science is a BA, not BS, which at the time only required college algebra. 

When I started my Masters at Old Dominion, they waived the Calculus requirement, since I already had 8+ years experience in the Computer field.

I have to say, I've never needed Calculus in all my computer-related jobs.  I figure if I ever need to perform higher level math, that's what we have computers for!    :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2021, 08:27:47 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on May 29, 2021, 07:35:22 PM
Never took Calculus.  My degree in Computer Science is a BA, not BS, which at the time only required college algebra. 

When I started my Masters at Old Dominion, they waived the Calculus requirement, since I already had 8+ years experience in the Computer field.

I have to say, I've never needed Calculus in all my computer-related jobs.  I figure if I ever need to perform higher level math, that's what we have computers for!    :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
Out of personal experience it is hard to beat real world experience.
Boeing real time software engineers and Most world class observatory electronics engineers
have to know and use calculus. I once screwed up a calculation and had to get the help of
a Phd to write the "Fix it" report to the FAA.
Don't worry, I didn't crash any airplanes.
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Glasser

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2021, 08:41:24 AM »
Quote from: groveler on May 30, 2021, 08:27:47 AM
Out of personal experience it is hard to beat real world experience.
Boeing real time software engineers and Most world class observatory electronics engineers
have to know and use calculus. I once screwed up a calculation and had to get the help of
a Phd to write the "Fix it" report to the FAA.
Don't worry, I didn't crash any airplanes.

Boeing remains firmly committed to diversity and outsourcing its design and software programming to India, a disastrous policy that was openly mocked in recently released internal employee memos:

    The latest documents Boeing has released related to the design and certification of the 737 Max paint a dark picture of employee reactions to problems that came up during the development of the now-grounded airliners.

    The documents include emails and internal communications. In one message, employees mock the Federal Aviation Administration and brag about getting regulators to approve the jets without requiring much additional pilot training.

    In another document, an employee ridicules colleagues involved in the development of the troubled plane, saying “this airplane is designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by monkeys.”

    Crashes of 737 Max airliners in 2018 and 2019 killed a total of 346 people.

    Some of the most concerning messages involve discussions of problems with the company’s Max flight simulators in which the company employees suggest they misled regulators about potential problems with the Max.

    “I still haven’t been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year,” one employee says in 2018, referring to an exchange of information with the FAA.

    Another damning exchange calls into question the safety of the 737 Max long before the plane was approved to fly passengers.

    “Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn’t,” says one employee to another, who responds, “No.”

    House Transportation Committee Chairman Peter DeFazio, a Democrat from Oregon, called newly released documents “incredibly damning,” adding, “they paint a deeply disturbing picture of the lengths Boeing was apparently willing to go to in order to evade scrutiny from regulators, flight crews, and the flying public, even as its own employees were sounding alarms internally.”

    A Boeing official said the communications were written by a small number of employees, primarily Boeing technical pilots and personnel involved with the development and qualification of Boeing’s 737 Max simulators. Some of them are the same employees involved in sending other damaging emails and internal messages that were disclosed last year.

    The company official said the language used and sentiments expressed in these communications “are inconsistent with Boeing values, and the company is taking appropriate action in response.”

    The FAA reviewed the documents for safety implications. “Our experts determined that nothing in the submission pointed to any safety risks that were not already identified as part of the ongoing review of proposed modifications to the aircraft,” the FAA said in a statement.

    The statement goes on to call the tone and some of the language contained in the documents “disappointing, [but] the FAA remains focused on following a thorough process for returning the Boeing 737 MAX to passenger service.”

So Boeing is more concerned about the racist ‘tone’ or implications of the memos, not the safety issues or the resulting deaths that their commitment to diversity has cost them.
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Kuleana

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2021, 09:29:26 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on May 30, 2021, 08:41:24 AM
So Boeing is more concerned about the racist ‘tone’ or implications of the memos, not the safety issues or the resulting deaths that their commitment to diversity has cost them.
Capitalism at its worst...

Profits over people; what else is new?

Capitalism also indirectly fosters racism, BTW.
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ren

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2021, 09:36:11 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on May 29, 2021, 07:35:22 PM
Never took Calculus.  My degree in Computer Science is a BA, not BS, which at the time only required college algebra. 

When I started my Masters at Old Dominion, they waived the Calculus requirement, since I already had 8+ years experience in the Computer field.

I have to say, I've never needed Calculus in all my computer-related jobs.  I figure if I ever need to perform higher level math, that's what we have computers for!    :geekdanc: :geekdanc:

they didn't allow me to use my abacus during tests in college - racist!
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Kuleana

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2021, 09:45:20 AM »
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hvybarrels

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2021, 10:47:08 AM »
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groveler

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2021, 12:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Kuleana on May 30, 2021, 09:29:26 AM
Capitalism at its worst...

Profits over people; what else is new?

Capitalism also indirectly fosters racism, BTW.
In my day at Boeing "safety was job one".
I worked with Vietnamese, Iranians, Blacks, and whatever.
If you could survive at Boeing for over five years you were worth
something as Boeing will terminate your ass in a second if you
don't measure up.  Everybody was replaceable.

I left when They switched gears to be a money making enterprise.
Making money became their focus.  I wanted to make the best aircraft
in the world and get paid for it, Boeing engineers weren't well paid,
I had dozens of "head hunters" offer me work for lot's more money,
but I have that stupid pride thing. When you pull G's in a B777
or the future AF1 doing experimental flight tests, you'd don't forget that.
You cannot buy that stuff.

Personally I don't blame capitalism, which I learned was very brutal.
I blame Democrats, politics, and ignorant people that support
those institutions.
Monarchists included.

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Glasser

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2021, 01:15:34 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/armed-black-supremacists-tulsa-will-come-time-will-kill-everything-white-sight-video/

Armed Black Supremacists in Tulsa: ‘There Will Come a Time When We Will Kill Everything White in Sight’

The following groups participated in Saturday’s march:

    The Huey P Newton Gun Club (HPNGC)
    The Elmer Geronimo Pratt Gun Club (EGPGC)
    The New Black Panther Party for Self- Defense (NBPP)
    The Fred Hampton Gun Club (FHGC)
    The New Black Liberation Militia (NBLM)
    The Panther Special Operations Command (PANSOC)
    ANUBIS
    Multiple other groups and private gun owners

Meanwhile, the FBI is busy hunting down grandmas who aimlessly wandered through the Capitol on January 6.
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Kuleana

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2021, 01:21:38 PM »
Quote from: Glasser on May 30, 2021, 01:15:34 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/armed-black-supremacists-tulsa-will-come-time-will-kill-everything-white-sight-video/

Armed Black Supremacists in Tulsa: ‘There Will Come a Time When We Will Kill Everything White in Sight’

The following groups participated in Saturday’s march:

    The Huey P Newton Gun Club (HPNGC)
    The Elmer Geronimo Pratt Gun Club (EGPGC)
    The New Black Panther Party for Self- Defense (NBPP)
    The Fred Hampton Gun Club (FHGC)
    The New Black Liberation Militia (NBLM)
    The Panther Special Operations Command (PANSOC)
    ANUBIS
    Multiple other groups and private gun owners

Meanwhile, the FBI is busy hunting down grandmas who aimlessly wandered through the Capitol on January 6.
The FBI is not stupid or inept.

I would not be surprised that these so-called armed black supremist groups are nothing but patsies, that are covertly handled, by the FBI's COINTELPRO, to stir-up trouble, in order to flush-out the last American patriots, with the goal some kinetic action happens, resulting in patriots deaths and the patriot survivors' identities databased, for future incarceration.
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groveler

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2021, 02:29:00 PM »
Quote from: Kuleana on May 30, 2021, 01:21:38 PM
The FBI is not stupid or inept.

I would not be surprised that these so-called armed black supremist groups are nothing but patsies, that are covertly handled, by the FBI's COINTELPRO, to stir-up trouble, in order to flush-out the last American patriots, with the goal some kinetic action happens, resulting in patriots deaths and the patriot survivors' identities databased, for future incarceration.
FBI years ago perhaps, you are correct.
FBI today. is a brown shirt Democrat party
run political machine.
Treat it as such.
Who is going to kill or incarcerate you first,
your government, or a Russian/Chinese soldier?
Deal with that, fellow Hawaii citizens.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2021, 02:34:15 PM »
Quote from: groveler on May 30, 2021, 08:27:47 AM
Out of personal experience it is hard to beat real world experience.
Boeing real time software engineers and Most world class observatory electronics engineers
have to know and use calculus. I once screwed up a calculation and had to get the help of
a Phd to write the "Fix it" report to the FAA.
Don't worry, I didn't crash any airplanes.

Most of my jobs were in Command, Control and Communications.  Few opportunities to really delve into aeronautical calculations and the like.  I took a couple of Masters classes with a Colonel who had a team of PhD civilians working with munitions calculations.  For every aircraft, in every range of weather conditions, and with every type of munition combination, the calculations determined which airframe and bombs/missiles were capable of destroying a given target type.  This was all used for planning air strikes.

The interesting part is the Pentagon sent these updated datasets out to operational and planning units quarterly.  Then, the PhD's this colonel had under him at the NASA facility next to Langley AFB where I worked would plug the data into their EXCEL spreadsheets.  They'd developed a series of spreadsheets that re-worked the Pentagon data, produced by super-computers, which verified the calculations and results.  Apparently, the spreadsheets were so complex, the colonel felt he needed advanced college classes to grasp whet his people did for him!

According to the colonel, not a quarter went by that the spreadsheets didn't catch at least a few mistakes in the Pentagon's data.   :thumbsup:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2021, 02:36:41 PM »
Quote from: ren on May 30, 2021, 09:36:11 AM
they didn't allow me to use my abacus during tests in college - racist!

The "clacking" noise was too much of a distraction for the other students.   :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2021, 07:21:38 PM »
Quote from: ren on May 30, 2021, 09:36:11 AM
they didn't allow me to use my abacus during tests in college - racist!
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I used a slide rule....no cheap calculators back then.
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Glasser

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2021, 08:12:54 PM »
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hvybarrels

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2021, 01:00:03 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on May 30, 2021, 08:12:54 PM
https://justthenews.com/nation/free-speech/diversity-training-requires-employees-agree-university-gender-identity-cultural

Campus 'diversity' training challenged as unconstitutional compelled speech

Glad that there are signs this madness is finally ending
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: so to defeat "systemic racism"
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2021, 12:42:46 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on May 31, 2021, 01:00:03 AM
Glad that there are signs this madness is finally ending
Unfortunately, the push to continue the madness will never end.  Lawsuits to stop specific instances of insanity won't curtail the spread as long as crazy people are in control of places like Portland and San Francisco.

We won a battle.  The war rages on.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw
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