Flew into oahu and stopped by OGC and looked at pistols. Ended up looking at a high end springfield 1911 and figured if i was gonna spend that much on a pistol, might as well get an ar and actually be able to take it home now vs waiting 2 weeks which i hate so much. Ended up looking at a LWRC spr. Kinda pricey. Then went to gun source and picked up a PWS rifle. Loved the weight and kinda liked the long stroke piston system. Anyone have any experience with these rifles? Interested in the MK114 for pws. The lwrc id like the spr but not sure bout spending that much money. Then the thought of a barrett rec7 since the price was around the area. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PWS has to be the lightest piston gun around.  Still when you look at that op rod and see how skinny it is I can't help but think what happens if you have the carrier on the ground and you step on it accidentally.

I own several LWRC rifles and a couple of DI guns.  My preference is the LWRC or HK system for pistons.

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I prefer LWRC. but we are making our own piston guns locally. So far it adds only 6oz to the carbine.
Biggest issue is eliminating as much carrier tilt as possible. 

Personally I have a PWS.  It has been solid and has been good to me.  I have had friends, though, that have had some problems with it.  Boiled down to the brand of rounds they were using.  The main reason I bought it was because of the weight.  My very petite other half can shoulder the gun and fire it balls on no problem because of the lighter weight and with the recoil buffer and muzzle brake there is less felt recoil than with some other AR's.  She's  fired our friends' Colt, Rock River, and Knights Armament, but always notes that she prefers "her" gun because it's lighter and has less kick.  I'm fine either way, but having something she enjoys keeps us all happy.

a regular AR will be fine. Standard, available parts. Works and guess what? There is already a piston in it. Guess what the gas rings are for? I've dragged an A4 through fine sand and dust storms, hoping it will jam like people say it would but it didn't.  I'd be curious as to how accurate a "piston" AR can be. This weekend would be a great opportunity to bring out piston ARs to the 600 yard line.

Ive had a LWRC M6A2 in 6.8 SPC for a few years (2008?)  that performs as I expected it to, but it really does nothing for me other than weigh more than my direct impingement guns.  I prefer LWRC over POF; no experience with the PWS, LMT, or Adams piston guns though.  My SCARs trump them all.

Thanks for the feedback on the rifles, just wanted peoples 2 cents about their experience with the rifles. I own a stag 3g di, with a fail zero bcg. Works flawlessly so far. Looking for another ar because of this stuff going on in politics and possible ban. Get um will i can. Any more feedback and experiences will be appreciated.

Thanks for the feedback on the rifles, just wanted peoples 2 cents about their experience with the rifles. I own a stag 3g di, with a fail zero bcg. Works flawlessly so far. Looking for another ar because of this stuff going on in politics and possible ban. Get um will i can. Any more feedback and experiences will be appreciated.

AR parts are low enough to buy now. Based on Obama's first election AR parts had the widest price swings from what I've seen.

I rather have lwrc. Seen a few pws
 systems with major issues, from what I heard customer service takes forever.

a regular AR will be fine. Standard, available parts. Works and guess what? There is already a piston in it. Guess what the gas rings are for? I've dragged an A4 through fine sand and dust storms, hoping it will jam like people say it would but it didn't.  I'd be curious as to how accurate a "piston" AR can be. This weekend would be a great opportunity to bring out piston ARs to the 600 yard line.

If we ever meet, you can try out my LWRC SPR & REPR rifles.  I've shot my REPR at distance (about 800 - 900 yards).  I get decently close, but my scope is out of adjustment, don't have enough moa built into my rail.  Still the gun out shoots me (which isn't too hard, and is about true for most rifles nowadays).

Piston ARs are not as accurate as DI guns due to the barrel harmornics of having the piston driven system on top. PWS went to the long stroke for that reason but it doesnt eliminate that issue.

I looked into piston guns (LWRC, PWS, HK, LMT, Sig), but I decided to stick with DI guns because they are less expensive (in general), have common parts and I don't really see the piston system as an advantage unless you are shooting full-auto, suppressed or have to shoot a variety of ammo.  Two out of the three are non-issues for us in Hawaii.  The latter may be of a concern to some. 

The proprietary nature of the piston system and non-standardization of the system is somewhat of a turn-off, but not that big of a deal really.  I do like that my DI guns all share the same parts though. 

If we ever meet, you can try out my LWRC SPR & REPR rifles.  I've shot my REPR at distance (about 800 - 900 yards).  I get decently close, but my scope is out of adjustment, don't have enough moa built into my rail.  Still the gun out shoots me (which isn't too hard, and is about true for most rifles nowadays).

That would be awesome if you could bring it to Puuloa this Saturday. 
We had an F class shooter with a POF but not sure if he did shoot it at distance. I was actually considering a REPR but most likely my next 308 semi would be an OBR or Armalite "NM" AR10 when I do save up the $.

^^^I might be working this Saturday.

What times do the matches start over there?

^^^I might be working this Saturday.

What times do the matches start over there?

We get there at about 7am to sign in and start assigning shooters to points and set up targets. We try to get rounds downrange by 8 am. Damn. that OBR at OGC is tempting.