watched this....au bellati is a totally brainwashed lib.

watched this....au bellati is a totally brainwashed lib.

Was it me, or did the "interview" appear totally scripted?  Seems like the host was spoon-feeding the guest questions for which she was prepared to answer.  Nothing was over her head, which is completely unheard of for elected officials.

What irritated me -- when I wasn't mentally tuning it out to spare my sanity -- is the number of times the guest injected "for public safety" or some variation of it.

The Supreme Court Ruling in the Bruen Case specifically states that the government can't pass laws interfering in the free exercise of a Constitutional right based on intermediate scrutiny -- and that includes weighing the safety or security of the public against an individual's right.  "Public safety" could be cited in all kinds of laws that are unconstitutional if the test is whether the public "may" be harmed by anyone committing criminal acts which abuse that individual right.

She's a lawyer, but here she is ignoring the law so Hawaii can make even more unconstitutional laws.

Typical nanny state mentality.  I'm here to protect you from yourselves and each other.  But, when the need for protection actually appears, is SHE going to be there to protect us? Is anyone in the government going to be there?  Of course not.  But at least she "feels" safer with stricter gun laws in place.   

1 segment she was on about how to buy a gun, she was wrong.

Was it me, or did the "interview" appear totally scripted?  Seems like the host was spoon-feeding the guest questions for which she was prepared to answer.  Nothing was over her head, which is completely unheard of for elected officials.

What irritated me -- when I wasn't mentally tuning it out to spare my sanity -- is the number of times the guest injected "for public safety" or some variation of it.

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I thought exactly the same thing. I was watching Matayoshi eagerly nodding her head through the entire propaganda speech.
Reminded me of a bobblehead doll.
I also noticed the frequent use of "public safety" as justification for more restrictions.
smh

I also noticed the frequent use of "public safety" as justification for more restrictions.

That's all the left has for reasons to ban guns.

We get it, they’re butthurt hole-puckering Democraps that don’t want guns in the hands of the average person because they know when the time comes to have to use it, most will. Imagine being such a tyrant that you trash talk the highest court in the land - historically and currently - tasked with interpreting the Constitutionality and legitimacy of laws in accordance with the Constitution. Tell us that you don’t care about the people or the rights of those who essentially hired you because you’re unhappy about the freedom and rights of the people being officially and publicly affirmed and maintained.

I couldn't watch it all the way through.  Not an exercise of objectivity but more like a brainwash exercise for the sheeple.

Recap for those who cannot sit thru this propoganda

1) HI is looking at NY as CCW law examples
2) Things like instead of a no guns allowed sign, the business owner must put a guns welcome sign in order for someone to CCW inside. How many stores won't know about this and have no guns welcome sign due to not knowing (probably like over 80% of stores).
3) The majority leader (ML) mentions that SCOTUS still said states can make their own training, IMO I expect NY type training since she referred to NY during the segment. 16 hours of training required. And since NY has no class curriculum, all of their CCW apps are on hold until 1 can be created and their DOJ is given until April 2022 to have a course curriculum. Then add in more months to actually find instructors.  In HI, only 1 company handles OC training, that's Star Protection. So I'll bet HI will only allow them. And if HI does the 2 day requirement (16hrs) and Star does 2 groups of classes a week. Guess what, only say 10 people per class will get a training class (that's 20 a week).  Then imagine the thousands trying to get into the class.  It will be like HPD RSVP system 2.0. Gonna take 8 months to get into a class. And you have to do this annually. So as soon as you get your CCW, you gotta already book your renewal class.
4) ML mentions they want tech like smart guns (which don't exist yet).

The ML seems to enjoy what she's doing and they are looking for ways around the SCOTUS ruling. So expect NY like laws. Which shows that as written, HI's CCW law was never to issue any permits.  Because why make so many changes to it?  All they would have to do is remove the reason and good moral character section.

Recap for those who cannot sit thru this propoganda

1) HI is looking at NY as CCW law examples
2) Things like instead of a no guns allowed sign, the business owner must put a guns welcome sign in order for someone to CCW inside. How many stores won't know about this and have no guns welcome sign due to not knowing (probably like over 80% of stores).
3) The majority leader (ML) mentions that SCOTUS still said states can make their own training, so expect NY type training since she referred to NY during the segment. 16 hours of training required. And since NY has no class curriculum, all of their CCW apps are on hold until 1 can be created and their DOJ is given until April 2022 to have a course curriculum. Then add in more months to actually find instructors.  In HI, only 1 company handles OC training, that's Star Protection. So I'll bet HI will only allow them. And if HI does the 2 day requirement (16hrs) and Star does 2 groups of classes a week. Guess what, only say 10 people per class will get a training class (that's 20 a week).  Then imagine the thousands trying to get into the class.  It will be like HPD RSVP system 2.0. Gonna take 8 months to get into a class. And you have to do this annually. So as soon as you get your CCW, you gotta already book your renewal class.
4) ML mentions they want tech like smart guns (which don't exist yet).

The ML seems to enjoy what she's doing and they are looking for ways around the SCOTUS ruling. So expect NY like laws. Which shows that as written, HI's CCW law was never to issue any permits.  Because why make so many changes to it?  All they would have to do is remove the reason and good moral character section.

The "Guns Welcome" sign is (1) a way of forcing businesses to publicly affirm whether or not they agree with the Supreme Court's ruling, and (2) substituting the lawmaker's wishes (no guns allowed) if the business doesn't display any signage.  As you said, by default, it'll be illegal to enter without such "permission" by the business.  Kind of like, when the gov't wants to pass a ballot initiative, they word the question in a way that favors their wishes if the voter leaves it blank.

The funny part about all that is, if the gun is concealed, who's going to stop you?  Are businesses going to stop every customer and frisk them upon entry?  I think not.

It's also funny how Hawaii is "different" and has to do things differently than the mainland.  So, now we need to copy New York?  Why only that state?  Are there not other states that are more aligned with Hawaii residents, such as Nevada (9th Island) or CA (already issues thousands of carry permits)?  Our "leaders" are drafting off New York, hoping to implement their laws here, but have NY take any legal heat ahead of HI.

As for taking forever to implement requirements, "A right delayed is a right denied."  (quoted in a G&G video)

New York and New Jersey already set the example of requiring over $1,000 to get a gun permit, and even more to get a carry permit.  Unless the states can justify the laws under the new SCOTUS guidelines for constitutional analysis, the laws won't be on the books for very long.  "Public safety" is no longer a catch-all reason to violate our rights.

Any time someone tells me Hawaii is “different” it’s code for them making excuses to why it needs to remain a backwards shit hole.

People accept failure because you can’t drive across a boarder and witness how a nearby successful state conducts its affairs.

The "Guns Welcome" sign is (1) a way of forcing businesses to publicly affirm whether or not they agree with the Supreme Court's ruling, and (2) substituting the lawmaker's wishes (no guns allowed) if the business doesn't display any signage.  As you said, by default, it'll be illegal to enter without such "permission" by the business.  Kind of like, when the gov't wants to pass a ballot initiative, they word the question in a way that favors their wishes if the voter leaves it blank.

The funny part about all that is, if the gun is concealed, who's going to stop you?  Are businesses going to stop every customer and frisk them upon entry?  I think not.

It's also funny how Hawaii is "different" and has to do things differently than the mainland.  So, now we need to copy New York?  Why only that state?  Are there not other states that are more aligned with Hawaii residents, such as Nevada (9th Island) or CA (already issues thousands of carry permits)?  Our "leaders" are drafting off New York, hoping to implement their laws here, but have NY take any legal heat ahead of HI.

As for taking forever to implement requirements, "A right delayed is a right denied."  (quoted in a G&G video)

New York and New Jersey already set the example of requiring over $1,000 to get a gun permit, and even more to get a carry permit.  Unless the states can justify the laws under the new SCOTUS guidelines for constitutional analysis, the laws won't be on the books for very long.  "Public safety" is no longer a catch-all reason to violate our rights.

And much of the NY law is already being challenged. Hopefully it loses by the time our legislative session starts. But HI may say F-U and do it anyways cause they don't care if a lawsuit happens.

You guys are so cynical!

The chief there on Oahu said they'd be issuing licenses by the end of August. You think he's a lying sack of shit? I'm sure he's an upright, honest, Constitution-supporting law enforcement officer, and that any requirements such as "training" that might be imposed will be fully available and complete-able prior to the end of August so those licenses can be issued as per his statement. Cops don't lie! Especially chiefs!