Robbed by the ATF (Read 3003 times)

astroboy

Robbed by the ATF
« on: November 28, 2022, 10:42:14 AM »
Navy Vet. was robbed of his guns and gear worth $20K.

groveler

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2022, 10:58:51 AM »
Navy Vet. was robbed of his guns and gear worth $20K.


Most important point made was very fast.
"Don't talk to cops!"
 :thumbsup:
I know that is antiethical to this site, but it is our present reality.
this ain't "Leave it to Beaver" era any more.
This is Obama times.
 :grrr:

changemyoil66

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2022, 12:47:22 PM »
Most important point made was very fast.
"Don't talk to cops!"
 :thumbsup:
I know that is antiethical to this site, but it is our present reality.
this ain't "Leave it to Beaver" era any more.
This is Obama times.
 :grrr:

They will also come after you if you don't as well. So either way we're screwed.  Asian National Guard O6 or something, they asked him about a Markov pistol and he said he wont answer without his lawyer. AFT showed up later and arrested him and charged him with selling guns without a FFL or something. He lost his security clearance, lost his real estate realtor business while fighting the charges. IDK what ever came about.  Bascially the AFT asked to if they could see 1 pistol that he bought.

The AFT is a weapon used to make examples out of people.  Like they actually go into the hood and do that same thing at drug houses.

hvybarrels

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2022, 01:07:53 PM »
Did I hear Mr. Gng correctly?

ATF agent in charge of the case was reassigned to that field office after facing drunk driving charges on duty?

Can’t make this stuff up.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2022, 01:13:59 PM »
Did I hear Mr. Gng correctly?

ATF agent in charge of the case was reassigned to that field office after facing drunk driving charges on duty?

Can’t make this stuff up.

Part of the "A-Team".  They put the "A" in "ATF".   :rofl: :shake:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2022, 01:35:15 PM »
this ain't "Leave it to Beaver" era any more.
This is Obama times. :grrr:
I know you will disagree, but Americans today are living in an empire and like most empires, the people don't have intrinsic freedoms, but are allowed to have permitted freedoms that unfortunately can be taken away if the ultrawealthy, American oligarchy, Power Okole, or whoever you want to call them deem those personal liberties a threat to their continued rule.

The Democrats make no secret they don't want people to have firearms, but even the so-called Republicans during the Trump presidency did nothing to stop the domestic police from implementing the overall imperial policy to disarm the populace.

groveler

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2022, 01:35:57 PM »
They will also come after you if you don't as well. So either way we're screwed.  Asian National Guard O6 or something, they asked him about a Markov pistol and he said he wont answer without his lawyer. AFT showed up later and arrested him and charged him with selling guns without a FFL or something. He lost his security clearance, lost his real estate realtor business while fighting the charges. IDK what ever came about.  Bascially the AFT asked to if they could see 1 pistol that he bought.

The AFT is a weapon used to make examples out of people.  Like they actually go into the hood and do that same thing at drug houses.
How did they know he had the gun?
Last time I heard an O6 was a Colonel in most our military
or a Captain in the Navy.
You need Congressional authorization to get that  rank.
Someone screwed up or was it an Obama "woke" refusenik?
 :wtf:




groveler

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2022, 01:38:36 PM »
I know you will disagree, but Americans today are living in an empire and like most empires, the people don't have intrinsic freedoms, but are allowed to have permitted freedoms that unfortunately can be taken away if the ultrawealthy, American oligarchy, Power Okole, or whoever you want to call them deem those personal liberties a threat to their continued rule.

The Democrats make no secret they don't want people to have firearms, but even the so-called Republicans during the Trump presidency did nothing to stop the domestic police from implementing the overall imperial policy to disarm the populace.
I only disagree with your term "empire".
 >:D

changemyoil66

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2022, 01:52:58 PM »
Did I hear Mr. Gng correctly?

ATF agent in charge of the case was reassigned to that field office after facing drunk driving charges on duty?

Can’t make this stuff up.

"1 cannot be a good AFT agent unless 1 consumes alcohol" (Like Training Day quote about consuming narcotics as a narcotics detective).

changemyoil66

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2022, 01:55:11 PM »
I know you will disagree, but Americans today are living in an empire and like most empires, the people don't have intrinsic freedoms, but are allowed to have permitted freedoms that unfortunately can be taken away if the ultrawealthy, American oligarchy, Power Okole, or whoever you want to call them deem those personal liberties a threat to their continued rule.

The Democrats make no secret they don't want people to have firearms, but even the so-called Republicans during the Trump presidency did nothing to stop the domestic police from implementing the overall imperial policy to disarm the populace.

I can say that I agree with this post.  Oh snap, did I just join to be the next orange leader?

changemyoil66

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2022, 02:01:33 PM »
How did they know he had the gun?
Last time I heard an O6 was a Colonel in most our military
or a Captain in the Navy.
You need Congressional authorization to get that  rank.
Someone screwed up or was it an Obama "woke" refusenik?
 :wtf:

My google fu is weak. All that came up when I googled "Asian national guardsman and realtor arrested by ATF" was Gregory Wong (Cosplay and re-enactor), and some Ohio NG thing.  I wonder if it's being buried.

I think he was a Japanese guy.

But when I typed "Asian national guards man loses security clearance for" then "Selling Markov" prefilled.

I'm going from memory and can't be sure of his rank or if it was a Markov.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2022, 05:37:41 PM »
My google fu is weak. All that came up when I googled "Asian national guardsman and realtor arrested by ATF" was Gregory Wong (Cosplay and re-enactor), and some Ohio NG thing.  I wonder if it's being buried.

I think he was a Japanese guy.

But when I typed "Asian national guards man loses security clearance for" then "Selling Markov" prefilled.

I'm going from memory and can't be sure of his rank or if it was a Markov.
I tried searching, too.

Hard to locate one National Guardsman being arrested out of apparently hundreds, if not thousands, on charges ranging from bribery, corruption and lying to investigators to firearm trafficking, defrauding the government and kiddie pron.

Just a drop in the ocean.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Sodie

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2022, 06:31:36 PM »
My google fu is weak. All that came up when I googled "Asian national guardsman and realtor arrested by ATF" was Gregory Wong (Cosplay and re-enactor), and some Ohio NG thing.  I wonder if it's being buried.

I think he was a Japanese guy.

But when I typed "Asian national guards man loses security clearance for" then "Selling Markov" prefilled.

I'm going from memory and can't be sure of his rank or if it was a Markov.

Markov or Makarov?  Never heard of a Markov.

changemyoil66

Re: Robbed by the ATF
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2022, 07:33:52 PM »
Markov or Makarov?  Never heard of a Markov.
The latter.

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