Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case (Read 1366 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case
« on: February 10, 2023, 11:41:37 AM »
On January 15th, a man in Brazil took his mother to an MRI appointment.

He apparently didn't heed the staff's warning to leave all metal outside the MRI area.

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The MRI machine reportedly pulled the gun from his waistband, which caused it to fire
and strike Novaes in his stomach. The lawyer was transported to São Luiz Morumbi
Hopsital, where he was eventually pronounced dead on February 6.
https://www.iheart.com/content/2023-02-10-lawyer-dies-after-mri-machine-at-hospital-sets-off-his-gun/?mid=1031250&rid=98839342&sc=email&pname=newsletter&cid=NATIONAL&keyid=National%20iHeart%20Daily%20NewsTalk&campid=headline4_readmore

He won't do that again!

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2023, 11:47:49 AM »
I wonder how close 1 has to be. Like if you're outside the door, is that strong enough?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2023, 11:55:16 AM »
I wonder how close 1 has to be. Like if you're outside the door, is that strong enough?

I'm sure it depends on how much shielding there is in the walls, i.e. thickness, material used, ....

There's usually a shielded room/booth for the technicians to sit protected while operating the MRI scanner.

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The powerful magnetic field of the MR system can attract objects made from certain metals
(i.e., metals known to be ferromagnetic, such as iron) and cause them to move suddenly and
with great force. This can pose a possible risk to the patient or anyone in the object's "flight
path." Therefore, great care is taken to ensure that external objects such as ferromagnetic
screwdrivers and oxygen tanks are not brought into the MR system room.

As a patient, it is vital that you remove all metallic belongings in advance of an MRI examination,
including external hearing aids, watches, jewelry, cell phones, and items of clothing that have
metallic threads or fasteners. Additionally, makeup, nail polish, or other cosmetics that may contain
metallic particles should be removed if applied to the area of the body undergoing the MRI
examination.

Various clothing items such as athletic wear (e.g., yoga pants, shirts, etc.), socks, braces, and
others may contain metallic threads or metal-based anti-bacterial compounds that may pose a
hazard. These items can heat up and burn the patient during an MRI. Therefore, MRI facilities
typically require patients to remove all potentially problematic clothing items prior to undergoing
an MRI.

The powerful magnetic field of the MR system will pull on any ferromagnetic object in or on the
patient’s body such as a medical implant (e.g., certain aneurysm clips, medication pumps, etc.).
Therefore, all MRI facilities have comprehensive screening procedures and protocols they use
to identify any potential hazards. When carefully followed, these steps ensure that the MRI
technologist and radiologist know about the presence of any metallic objects so they can take
precautions as needed.
https://www.radiologyinfo.org/en/info/safety-mr
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2023, 12:32:49 PM »
I'm sure it depends on how much shielding there is in the walls, i.e. thickness, material used, ....

There's usually a shielded room/booth for the technicians to sit protected while operating the MRI scanner.
https://www.radiologyinfo.org/en/info/safety-mr

Guess in Brazil, the screening isn't that good.  Implants would be a major problem.  Easiest screening would be to wand the person and not just rely on patient records or verbal "do you have any implants".

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2023, 12:42:16 PM »
Guess in Brazil, the screening isn't that good.  Implants would be a major problem.  Easiest screening would be to wand the person and not just rely on patient records or verbal "do you have any implants".

Actually, this says more about the lawyer than the hospital/MRI facility. 

Should have been using a holster -- something with good retention.   :thumbsup:

Report says the pistol was in his waistband.  To me, that implies no holster, but that's an assumption.  Given the outcome, I'd lean toward the assumption being accurate.   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Sodie

Re: Only Carry Polymer Pistols in Hospitals -- Just in Case
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 06:15:11 PM »


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