It has started (Read 1946 times)

groveler

It has started
« on: July 23, 2023, 05:16:18 PM »
For years I have warned of this

https://retire.ly/2023/07/22/how-ai-automation-could-impact-up-to-300-million-jobs/

One of my fields of expertise is automation.
I've also been a project engineer.
Generally speaking people are a pain in the ass
and as such any thinking person,  if possible
would replace them in their business.
It is now starting to happen.
Democrats have a problem
They are the ones that are going to be replaced.
The concept of a "Service society" is bull shit.
You need to produce something tangible.

My concern is,  what do we do with all our idiots?
Most government jobs are occupied.

hvybarrels

Re: It has started
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2023, 05:42:17 PM »
Ever wonder why Biden admin keeps escalating war with Russia even though it doesn't make any sense?

Big ass wars and the famines/plagues that follow have long been used by tyrannical regimes to reduce unwanted populations.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It has started
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2023, 06:25:27 PM »
She said the quiet part out loud, and now the rush is on to label it a "gaffe".

Kamala Harris says US must ‘reduce population’
to fight climate change in latest gaffe

Quote
Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday called on the US to “reduce population” in an effort
to combat climate change, but she meant to say “reduce pollution,” according to the White House.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/kamala-harris-says-us-must-reduce-population-to-fight-climate-change-in-latest-gaffe/

For her to utter those words and not catch herself mid-sentence means what she heard herself say did not make her feel uneasy.  She said what she meant in spite of the "official transcript."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: It has started
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2023, 06:46:35 PM »
For years I have warned of this

https://retire.ly/2023/07/22/how-ai-automation-could-impact-up-to-300-million-jobs/

One of my fields of expertise is automation.
I've also been a project engineer.
Generally speaking people are a pain in the ass
and as such any thinking person,  if possible
would replace them in their business.
It is now starting to happen.
Democrats have a problem
They are the ones that are going to be replaced.
The concept of a "Service society" is bull shit.
You need to produce something tangible.

My concern is,  what do we do with all our idiots?
Most government jobs are occupied.

I could not find your posts/warnings over the years.
You worried about a Green Acres prequel or sequel? Main characters played by Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie?
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It has started
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2023, 08:29:30 PM »
I could not find your posts/warnings over the years.
You worried about a Green Acres prequel or sequel? Main characters played by Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie?

He didn't say he was warning 2A forum members. 

I'm sure he frequents other websites geared toward AI-related issues with members more interested in the topic.

i have a hard time imagining him sitting around Drucker's General Store playing checkers, gnawing on a crisp pickle from the barrel and discussing the economic havoc represented by artificial intelligence.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: It has started
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2023, 01:45:03 AM »
He didn't say he was warning 2A forum members. 

I'm sure he frequents other websites geared toward AI-related issues with members more interested in the topic.

i have a hard time imagining him sitting around Drucker's General Store playing checkers, gnawing on a crisp pickle from the barrel and discussing the economic havoc represented by artificial intelligence.
Thanks for the complement.
I can design AI software.  Seems pretty simple to me.
I was taught by the best on the theory
and the Math needed.
Dealing with Democrats is not so simple.
 :grrr:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It has started
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2023, 03:19:28 AM »
Thanks for the complement.
I can design AI software.  Seems pretty simple to me.
I was taught by the best on the theory
and the Math needed.
Dealing with Democrats is not so simple.
 :grrr:

As you may remember me saying several times, I was assigned to the 552d AWAC Division (or Wing, depending on the timeframe) in the Mission Support Deputate (the name given to the Deputy Commander for Mission Support's unit).  One of the Boeing and other contractor's initiatives was an AI prototype to assist weapons and surveillance mission crew positions during AWACS operations.

The software was ahead of its time (mid 80s) but the amount of data necessary to store all the "knowledge" the software used to make decisions was massive, and the computers at the time were too slow to provide decisions or assessments fast enough to be useful.

The tests were interesting, but the results unimpressive.  I helped the testing efforts for about 3 months, and what we saw was something that needed much more processing power than existed then.

The AWACS E-3 back then was running with the equivalent memory capacity of 11 commodore 64s running in parallel, and the storage was 9 track mag tape and three magnetic drums.

It was a big deal when the E-3s were retrofitted with DAT tape drives.  Mission crews no longer needed 2-3 people to carry the 5 cases of 9 tape reels for live missions.  The poor crews who were chosen to BETA test a new release had to carry twice that -- the new and the current in case the new had too many problems to continue operations with it.

Anyway, the technology today offers massive opportunities to achieve miraculous advances in all kinds of computer-assisted solutions. That includes the Internet, which represents the largest collection of information humans have ever had access to.

Too bad the first thing that normally happens with new tech is the early adopters tend to find ways to make money in the porn industry with it.  Beta, VHS, video tape recording equipment, Laser Discs, CD, DVD, BluRay, Internet sites, streaming services, interactive chat, ...   it all became mainstream tech in part to the proliferation of that tech to support porn creation and consumption.

There are already reports of companies working on sex-bots and VR that's reminiscent of the "sex" scene in Demolition Man using AI.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: It has started
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2023, 07:10:07 AM »
As you may remember me saying several times, I was assigned to the 552d AWAC Division (or Wing, depending on the timeframe) in the Mission Support Deputate (the name given to the Deputy Commander for Mission Support's unit).  One of the Boeing and other contractor's initiatives was an AI prototype to assist weapons and surveillance mission crew positions during AWACS operations.

The software was ahead of its time (mid 80s) but the amount of data necessary to store all the "knowledge" the software used to make decisions was massive, and the computers at the time were too slow to provide decisions or assessments fast enough to be useful.

The tests were interesting, but the results unimpressive.  I helped the testing efforts for about 3 months, and what we saw was something that needed much more processing power than existed then.

The AWACS E-3 back then was running with the equivalent memory capacity of 11 commodore 64s running in parallel, and the storage was 9 track mag tape and three magnetic drums.

It was a big deal when the E-3s were retrofitted with DAT tape drives.  Mission crews no longer needed 2-3 people to carry the 5 cases of 9 tape reels for live missions.  The poor crews who were chosen to BETA test a new release had to carry twice that -- the new and the current in case the new had too many problems to continue operations with it.

Anyway, the technology today offers massive opportunities to achieve miraculous advances in all kinds of computer-assisted solutions. That includes the Internet, which represents the largest collection of information humans have ever had access to.

Too bad the first thing that normally happens with new tech is the early adopters tend to find ways to make money in the porn industry with it.  Beta, VHS, video tape recording equipment, Laser Discs, CD, DVD, BluRay, Internet sites, streaming services, interactive chat, ...   it all became mainstream tech in part to the proliferation of that tech to support porn creation and consumption.

There are already reports of companies working on sex-bots and VR that's reminiscent of the "sex" scene in Demolition Man using AI.
I don't recall the Virtual sex scene in "Demolition man" but seeing the government guy get his due was great.
Most all, this stuff happening in our society is like a capacitor charge  climbs really fast and then flattens out.
We are still climbing fast.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: It has started
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2023, 09:20:07 AM »
I don't recall the Virtual sex scene in "Demolition man" but seeing the government guy get his due was great.
Most all, this stuff happening in our society is like a capacitor charge  climbs really fast and then flattens out.
We are still climbing fast.

.

I can't believe you don't remember Sandra Bullock asking Sly Stallone to have sex,
then handing him a brainwave headset and a towel.

 :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

Re: It has started
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2023, 12:50:37 PM »
WOW! I’m so in awe of all of the resident Mensa here nowadays!  :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

groveler

Re: It has started
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2023, 01:28:17 PM »
WOW! I’m so in awe of all of the resident Mensa here nowadays!  :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I guess we'd better get back to discussing FFG vs Meal powder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal_powder

for our cannons.
 :geekdanc:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: It has started
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2023, 05:49:21 PM »
I guess we'd better get back to discussing FFG vs Meal powder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meal_powder

for our cannons.
 :geekdanc:

This is your thread.  You can do what you want!

 O0 :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

dogman

Re: It has started
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2023, 07:41:37 PM »
I guess we'd better get back to discussing FFG vs Meal powder
for our cannons.
 :geekdanc:
Did you ever build a rocket car?