After receiving my long gun PTA I am wondering how the transfer process works? Can someone confirm this for me? I am wanting to transfer a long gun from within my family.

1. BUYER shows SELLER Long Gun Permit, and gives money for long gun.
2. SELLER verifies Long Gun Permit, if valid, accept money from buyer for long gun.

3. (I am lost on this part on)

4. Physically bring long gun to HPD for physical inspection and the inspection of the firearm ASAP.
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Do I have to bring the old registration of that firearm to HPD when registering? Do I have to bring a receipt containing who I bought it from, and the firearm info (caliber, length of barrel, etc)? Or something completely different?

Thank you.

After receiving my long gun PTA I am wondering how the transfer process works? Can someone confirm this for me? I am wanting to transfer a long gun from within my family.

1. BUYER shows SELLER Long Gun Permit, and gives money for long gun.
2. SELLER verifies Long Gun Permit, if valid, accept money from buyer for long gun.

3. (I am lost on this part on)

4. Physically bring long gun to HPD for physical inspection and the inspection of the firearm ASAP.
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Do I have to bring the old registration of that firearm to HPD when registering? Do I have to bring a receipt containing who I bought it from, and the firearm info (caliber, length of barrel, etc)? Or something completely different?

Thank you.

if you have the owner's registration, or at least the registration control number printed on the form, HPD knows who you got it from. 

That registration form should have the owner's info and gun specs, which are all you need for the new registration besides your permit, your ID and the firearm.

It won't hurt to have the gun specs:  make, model, caliber, serial number, action type, barrel length.

1) I give my buyers a copy of my registration and a bill of sale which we both sign.

2) I check their ID and long gun permit. 

3) They hand me cash.  I hand them the firearm. 

4) They have 5 days to register.

5) I have 2 days to send a notice of sale to HPD.

It's not complicated. 

if you have the owner's registration, or at least the registration control number printed on the form, HPD knows who you got it from. 

That registration form should have the owner's info and gun specs, which are all you need for the new registration besides your permit, your ID and the firearm.

It won't hurt to have the gun specs:  make, model, caliber, serial number, action type, barrel length.

1) I give my buyers a copy of my registration and a bill of sale which we both sign.

2) I check their ID and long gun permit. 

3) They hand me cash.  I hand them the firearm. 

4) They have 5 days to register.

5) I have 2 days to send a notice of sale to HPD.

It's not complicated.

Does the bill of sale have to be an official document by HPD or is there a template that I can use or that you have seen to be successful.

For the notice of sale could the person I am buying it from come with me to HPD to do the notice of sale

Does the notice of sale contain, who bought it, and when.

Disregard found what the letter has to contain

Your long gun permit, identification, firearm, and this form filled out, I believe are all you need when you go to HPD.

https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/firearminformation_HPD084R05_13.pdf

Disregard found what the letter has to contain

FYI, this is the fillable form I use.  Simple, easy, and lots of helpful tips and info.

https://montanaguntrader.com/free-fillable-downloadable-and-printable-gun-bill-of-transfer-for-unlicensed-persons/

I make a PDF copy for each sale for my files, and I keep a signed paper copy, too.

Does the bill of sale have to be an official document by HPD or is there a template that I can use or that you have seen to be successful.

For the notice of sale could the person I am buying it from come with me to HPD to do the notice of sale

Does the notice of sale contain, who bought it, and when.

If the seller shows up at HPD with you to complete the transfer (cash <-> gun), and you then register it, there's no reason for the seller to do the notice.  The only reason to send notice is in case the buyer puts off registering.    Then HPD will know to gently remind the buyer to come in.

from within the family? dont have to do none of that. just take the gun and get it registered.

from within the family? dont have to do none of that. just take the gun and get it registered.

Are you saying the owner has no reason to check that the long gun permit is valid (not expired?).

That's would be irresponsible. 

The gun can't be registered without a valid long gun permit, especially if the firearm is already registered to a Hawaii resident (can't claim it's an out-of-state firearm).

Are you saying the owner has no reason to check that the long gun permit is valid (not expired?).

That's would be irresponsible. 

The gun can't be registered without a valid long gun permit, especially if the firearm is already registered to a Hawaii resident (can't claim it's an out-of-state firearm).

Are you saying that the buyer does not possess a valid long gun permit, and is attempting to acquire a long gun from the family member with no intention of registering it, so that it can be used in crimes?

Of course you arent. Play me a different song next time, im tired of hearing this one over and over.

Are you saying that the buyer does not possess a valid long gun permit, and is attempting to acquire a long gun from the family member with no intention of registering it, so that it can be used in crimes?

Of course you arent. Play me a different song next time, im tired of hearing this one over and over.

I'm saying a responsible person would ask to see the permit to check that it's valid BEFORE handing over a firearm they own.

What you said I am saying is hogwash.  People make mistakes.  Perhaps the person didn't realize his permit expired recently.

I don't care what you're tired of,especially when you make crap up that nobody said just to whine about something.

I'm saying a responsible person would ask to see the permit to check that it's valid BEFORE handing over a firearm they own.

What you said I am saying is hogwash.  People make mistakes.  Perhaps the person didn't realize his permit expired recently.

I don't care what you're tired of,especially when you make crap up that nobody said just to whine about something.

WRONG. you put words in my mouth(dumb words) and then stated your opinion. then stated a fact that is completely irrelevant. op literally states received long gun PTA and wants to transfer in the first few words of this thread.

Just stop already.

op literally states received long gun PTA and wants to transfer in the first few words of this thread.[/i][/b]

And you want to argue over what?  Actually looking at the permit?

 

And you want to argue over what?  Actually looking at the permit?

 

Im not arguing over shit. im calling out your shenanigans, which you constantly instigate. and now you want to pretend that I am threadjacking.

My advice is to stop fucking around.

Im not arguing over shit. im calling out your shenanigans, which you constantly instigate. and now you want to pretend that I am threadjacking.

My advice is to stop fucking around.

And you think I care what you say?

 

 

You haven't been here very long!

If the seller shows up at HPD with you to complete the transfer (cash <-> gun), and you then register it, there's no reason for the seller to do the notice.  The only reason to send notice is in case the buyer puts off registering.    Then HPD will know to gently remind the buyer to come in.

For within the 48 hours thing. By certified mail, does USPS get mail to HPD that fast? Or do you recommend the seller drop the letter off whenever they can. Thank you for all your help and he link to the form you put in here.

For within the 48 hours thing. By certified mail, does USPS get mail to HPD that fast? Or do you recommend the seller drop the letter off whenever they can. Thank you for all your help and he link to the form you put in here.

if you drop off a letter at USPS by 2:00-ish, depending on that location's pick-up schedule, it'll ordinarily be delivered next day.

On-island mail is pretty fast.

So, even if it gets delayed a day, 2 days would still be good.

As for legalities, if you get it postmarked by the deadline, it's considered on-time.  Same rules that govern mailing your IRS returns by midnight on Apr 15th.