how "projects" get started in Hawaii (Read 1062 times)

ren

how "projects" get started in Hawaii
« on: December 13, 2023, 07:15:25 AM »
a passionate plea that "something needs to be done" ok now here's the bill....Hawaii people "OK" :thumbsup: shoots!

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/dozens-turned-up-to-voice-concerns-over-the-proposed-ala-wai-flood-mitigation-plan/
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: how "projects" get started in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2023, 09:12:32 AM »
AKA "how do we pay the people who donate to our campaigns and line our pockets".

I mean, has the Ala Wai ever overflowed enough to cause major damage?  Like Hurricane Katrina levy style?  Even if it did, is having a 2 foot wall enough?  Will a rock wall be strong enough since you cannot use steel to reinforce like you can a concrete barrier.

oldfart

Re: how "projects" get started in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2023, 10:13:56 AM »
The problem with being a mayor or governor is trying to have the foresight to mitigate problems before they happen.
In most cases, the politicians that decided to start these projects never live long enough to see the completed project.

Take for example the beach erosion problem.
For whatever reason, the tides are rising and threatening houses.
What to do?

40 years ago, Frank Fasi wanted to build the rail system before there was Kapolei and UH west. They're not done building the west side yet.
60 years ago they started the H1 and the H3 freeways.

Who has the balls to start a project that won't be needed in their lifetime?
Imagine me sending a frame off to a gunsmith with instructions to build a gun for my great grandson in the year 2070.
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: how "projects" get started in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2023, 11:06:11 AM »
The problem with being a mayor or governor is trying to have the foresight to mitigate problems before they happen.
In most cases, the politicians that decided to start these projects never live long enough to see the completed project.

Take for example the beach erosion problem.
For whatever reason, the tides are rising and threatening houses.
What to do?

40 years ago, Frank Fasi wanted to build the rail system before there was Kapolei and UH west. They're not done building the west side yet.
60 years ago they started the H1 and the H3 freeways.

Who has the balls to start a project that won't be needed in their lifetime?
Imagine me sending a frame off to a gunsmith with instructions to build a gun for my great grandson in the year 2070.

The majority of politicians have the mindset, "Do what gets me the most votes next election, and kick the can down the road for difficult and expensive projects." 

They talk about doing the big projects, but then are out of office before it starts, leaving the problem for the next administration.

It boggles my mind how many keep reelecting the same promise-breakers term after term, knowing the definition of insanity.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw