Can You Answer These Questions? (Read 6082 times)

roadster99

Can You Answer These Questions?
« on: January 27, 2013, 08:57:11 PM »
Posting a link to a YouTube video.  The premise is that a high school girl calls up Army recruiters in search of some answers.  Sadly, she gets none.  For all of you in uniform now, proudly serving this country (THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SACRIFICE), this is in no way a jab at your decision to serve.  But out of curiosity, can you answer these questions?

Cougar8045

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 11:51:46 AM »
Jesus, I couldn't take any more of that brat's bullshit. 

Eight years Navy, here.  Yes, I think it's perfectly fine to recruit kids who "don't know what our foreign policy is".  Does this girl think it's ok for Honda to sell cars to young people who don't know what Honda's dealer service policy is?  (At least you can go find a copy of Honda's dealer service policy and read it.  Foreign policy is an unknowable nebula of variables.  The idiot in this video would probably be surprised that both candidates in the last Presidential election accused their opponent of not "knowing" foreign policy.)
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

Kingkeoni

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 12:09:39 PM »
Seriously, who gives a shit what the foreign policy is.

Most join the military out of a sincere desire to serve your country.

Others join because its a great job with good pay and excellent benefits.

The real question is why do you spend your time looking up under age girls on YouTube?
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

hvybarrels

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 01:17:34 PM »
Seriously, who gives a shit what the foreign policy is.


It's empire expansion, just in case you were wondering, and since 2007/2008 it's not working out as well as it used to.
You don't need a parachute to go skydiving. You need a parachute to go skydiving twice.

nf9648

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2013, 05:02:12 PM »
Hate to say it, but she probably shouldve contacted a Marine recruiter.  It doesnt matter what you think about foreign policy, you do what the fuck youre told.  If my uncle sam gifts me with the opportunity to kick some ass, then Im gonna accept it, why else would I be collecting a paycheck?  Knowledge is a individual responsibility, if kids are recruited with or without it doesnt matter.  All they need to do is be able to perform.

roadster99

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2013, 05:20:58 PM »
Seriously, who gives a shit what the foreign policy is.

Possibly people who vote?  Those who have family serving in the military who are concerned for their loved ones?

The real question is why do you spend your time looking up under age girls on YouTube?

Seriously?  That's what you're going to come at me with?  A cheap shot at perversion when it's quite obvious that the subject matter you're trying to imply crossed YOUR mind first?  Immature, much?

Since you've obviously missed the point, I'll ask a more direct question.  During the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the National Guard was tasked with confiscation of firearms.  There are many reports of civilians getting robbed, raped and/or assaulted due to the fact that they couldn't defend themselves.  In some cases, the police were even involved egregious criminal activity.  From what I understand, New Orleans wasn't officially under Martial Law.  As a member of any branch of the military (but obviously in this case the National Guard), would you follow orders and confiscate firearms under a similar situation, for example if Honolulu was hit with a hurricane and suffered Katrina-like damages?  In other words, as the "under-aged girl" in the video asks, would you follow orders even if it meant breaking your oath to uphold the constitution?

Kingkeoni

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2013, 05:45:11 PM »
Possibly people who vote?  Those who have family serving in the military who are concerned for their loved ones?

Obviously you missed the point of your own post.

The little girl in your video is asking the recruiters if and or why they recruit children to be in the army if they don't know the "foreign policy"
 :wtf: does that have to do with voters?
 :wtf: does that have to do with families?



Seriously?  That's what you're going to come at me with?  A cheap shot at perversion when it's quite obvious that the subject matter you're trying to imply crossed YOUR mind first?  Immature, much?

Don't project your guilt on me.

Since you've obviously missed the point, I'll ask a more direct question.  During the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the National Guard was tasked with confiscation of firearms.  There are many reports of civilians getting robbed, raped and/or assaulted due to the fact that they couldn't defend themselves.  In some cases, the police were even involved egregious criminal activity.  From what I understand, New Orleans wasn't officially under Martial Law.  As a member of any branch of the military (but obviously in this case the National Guard), would you follow orders and confiscate firearms under a similar situation, for example if Honolulu was hit with a hurricane and suffered Katrina-like damages?  In other words, as the "under-aged girl" in the video asks, would you follow orders even if it meant breaking your oath to uphold the constitution?

Again, your initial statement was "can you answer these questions"
Obviously attempting to incite some kind of reaction.
Your irreverence toward the military implies you've never served your country.
My stance on what I believe and what actions I would take in that situation are my personal business.
Why don't you go ahead and tell the world how you, oh great and mighty keyboard commando, would handle that situation.

Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

hvybarrels

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 05:59:35 PM »
Some other stuff that people should probably know about before they join the military

http://www.alternet.org/story/140206/government_experiments_on_u.s._soldiers%3A_shocking_claims_come_to_light_in_new_court_case
You don't need a parachute to go skydiving. You need a parachute to go skydiving twice.

hvybarrels

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 06:04:08 PM »
You don't need a parachute to go skydiving. You need a parachute to go skydiving twice.

roadster99

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 07:11:02 PM »
I don't believe I missed the point. Foreign policy has the potential to change every four years. Whether you are a service member or not doesn't change the fact that you have the ability to change what that foreign policy is. I think it is important to understand what you are choosing to represent. Am I that far off base? 

Concerning family members who serve, no matter what the foreign policy is, you will always be concerned of those serving abroad. Watching your son or daughter blindly jumping into something they are unprepared for isn't something you hope to see you children doing. You always want them informed and educated in the decisions they make.

No guilt. Cheap shots are cheap shots. That was a cheap shot.

Lastly, yes, I uploaded the video to provoke thought and discussion because I don't know what I would do. My intent was to promote some critical thinking in regard to a difficult subject. Yes, I have never served. But that is exactly why I posed the question and why I was intrigued by it. You can throw insults at me left and right, but that doesn't change the fact that we are both behind computer screens right now. If you have served, I sincerely thank you for your service. Frankly, you would be the perfect candidate to answer this type of question. I don't understand why you had to hijack the thread with insult.

To go further, I wasn't on this forum during the Watada decision. But that's a perfect example. He felt the war was unconstitutional. At the time, I felt insulted that a man of his stature would turn against his country. But with the constant fighting recently to keep our constitution in one piece, I find my opinion changing. Right now, I honestly don't know what I would do were I ever in the position to make that type of decision.

To go even further and bring this down to a civilian level, I don't even know what I would do if the feds came knocking. Do I stand up for the constitution and fight for the 2nd amendment, most likely losing my life and jeopardizing the lives of my family, or submit to and obey authority? I don't know what I would do. Anyone can talk a big game, but when the rubber hits the road, many find it hard to keep traction.  I'd probably fold and hand 'em over.

Look, responding to my post like an adult and saying, "I find x a bit offensive. Can you tone down the content of your posts?" is all I ask. Or, PM me.  But to come at me with a, why are you checking out underage girls? is cheap and does nothing but insult and incite uneeded argument. If I offended you, I apologize. But at least have the decency to point out what it is I offended you with that way we can avoid scrums like this in the future.

338KID

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013, 07:21:32 PM »
I swear the sometimes the only reason I come on here is to read kk reply . +1 I agree on that lol almighty keyboard commandos. Much respect to all fighting members of our U.S forces
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Cougar8045

Re: Can You Answer These Questions?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 08:44:45 PM »
Hate to say it, but she probably shouldve contacted a Marine recruiter.  It doesnt matter what you think about foreign policy, you do what the fuck youre told.  If my uncle sam gifts me with the opportunity to kick some ass, then Im gonna accept it, why else would I be collecting a paycheck?  Knowledge is a individual responsibility, if kids are recruited with or without it doesnt matter.  All they need to do is be able to perform.
This.  The military is a large machine, and people are recruited to be teeny, tiny little cogs in it.  Nobody gives a shit if you like what you're doing right now.  Continue to do it until the end of your contract or cool your heels in Leavenworth, the machine doesn't care.  Some day this snot will figure out what the world is about, probably about the same time her dad stops paying the bill for her internet connection; at which point she'll stop caring about whether or not she approves of the foreign policy, as long as someone is willing to pay her to carry it out. 

She might as well call up an Apple Genius and demand answers about child labor in China.  "I don't know or care about that, toots, I just work here to put beer in my fridge."
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2