The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD (Read 35554 times)

Alex Europa

Re: The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2010, 03:52:06 PM »
This is the type of thing you can utilize the FOIA and the Office of Information Practices (OIP) requests for, if they won't give it to you. I just don't have the free time to start submitting at this point.

Like  I was saying earlier, this is one of my goals for early next year...I'm going to do what I can (FOIA was what I was thinking...never heard of the OIP, something else for me to research >:() to get each county's procedures. Then I was going to pass it on to you to be added to the HCCW site.

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Re: The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2010, 03:53:56 PM »
FOIA is federal, OIP is our state version of FOIA.
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Vladimir

Re: The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2010, 04:51:43 PM »
At this point they are making shit up, and have no clue.  This is exactly one of the many reasons we are trying to push this (to find the bugs). You would need to speak to the major or whoever is in charge. Tell them your ready to apply and want the damn requirements imo.  Loomis also wouldn't let you shoot at their range or with their instructors, it wouldn't be in their liability insurance I'm sure. 

I also question the level of training these guards receive.  I kind of wish I could go over there to help figure out what the heck is going on on these other islands lol.  :wtf:

(b)  The chief of police of each county shall adopt procedures to require that any person granted a license to carry a concealed weapon on the person shall:
They have to have the procedures written down, so we can see what they are.

This is the type of thing you can utilize the FOIA and the Office of Information Practices (OIP) requests for, if they won't give it to you. I just don't have the free time to start submitting at this point.

I'll see what can find out when I go back; I still have a rifle at my dealer I need to register next week.

Should I ask for a Major or Sergeant at Arms?

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Re: The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2010, 05:43:25 PM »
Ask for the police officer who is directly in charge of the entire firearms division -- cut the middle man and hit the source =).

You just want it all in writing, so we know *exactly* (No speculation) what the requirements they want you to meet are.  Thanks for your help vladimir!
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Vladimir

Re: The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2010, 06:10:09 PM »
Ask for the police officer who is directly in charge of the entire firearms division -- cut the middle man and hit the source =).

You just want it all in writing, so we know *exactly* (No speculation) what the requirements they want you to meet are.  Thanks for your help vladimir!

I know who exactly then to ask; on Maui it's the Sergeant of Arms who handles any firearm related issue. I kind of puzzled the clerks and the Sergeant when I told them I was considering bringing in a Ladies Home Companion (it's the pistol version of the Street Sweeper Shotgun but chambered in .45 LC) and wasn't sure if it was a Destructive Device.

I'll let you guys know soon though if I can get the exact requirements and we can see if maybe each island has different standards?

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Re: The number of concealed carry permits issued by HPD
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2010, 07:27:51 AM »
Vladimir, I checked the logs and it looks like you were having some password issues. If you want to use your other account, you can go here to get a password reminder.
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