Alerted from musubi in status help thread  (thank you)....   SB2257 (3D Printed Firearms)  http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2014/bills/SB2257_.pdf
 
 
 
   At first glance seems like an unessasary bill, in that, if a criminal wanted to procuce a unlicenced/unregistered weapon, they would do it anyway.  A private law abiding citizen would do it, and then register it properly in any case.  I just had time to glance though it quickly....  Thoughts?

Alerted from musubi in status help thread  (thank you)....   SB2257 (3D Printed Firearms)  http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2014/bills/SB2257_.pdf
 
 
 
   At first glance seems like an unessasary bill, in that, if a criminal wanted to procuce a unlicenced/unregistered weapon, they would do it anyway.  A private law abiding citizen would do it, and then register it properly in any case.  I just had time to glance though it quickly....  Thoughts?

Why is it necessary to have a new law?  There are already laws for manufacturing a firearm.  No difference in my mind.  If you make a lower from an 80% blank, or create it on a 3D printer, the rules should be the same.

Tell me if there's something I'm missing here.

From what I read and interpretation of the bill, it is missing its target of users with 3d printers using spools of plastic as an ingredient in making firearms.
I've somewhat explored 3D printing and it is not as simple as the media portrays it to be. For a criminal to take up a project like this requires some level of competency and at that point, this criminal will probably have other means to skirt the law or not care about it. If anyone decides to print a firearm through 3D printing, they will find that it is not practical.
The term "digital manufacturing technology" in the bill includes CNC machines and is not specific for the plastic 3D printers we have heard about in the news recently.
I'm against it. Waste of time.

Why is it necessary to have a new law?  There are already laws for manufacturing a firearm.  No difference in my mind.  If you make a lower from an 80% blank, or create it on a 3D printer, the rules should be the same.

This exactly.

Why is it necessary to have a new law?  There are already laws for manufacturing a firearm.  No difference in my mind.  If you make a lower from an 80% blank, or create it on a 3D printer, the rules should be the same.

Tell me if there's something I'm missing here.

what you're missing is that scared, uninformed anti-gun people think you can just print a gun and it will be automatic and undetectable by a metal detector

what you're missing is that scared, uninformed anti-gun people think you can just print a gun and it will be automatic and undetectable by a metal detector

Yep, the whole purpose of the bill is to outlaw firearms made using "digital computer systems."

The legislature further finds that existing laws relating to firearms do not prohibit the manufacturing, use, or sale of digital manufacturing firearms
in Hawaii, which can increase the number of firearms and the risk of danger and violence. The purpose of this Act is to prohibit the manufacturing, use,
and sale of digitally manufactured firearms and ammunition.

As worded, no one can make a homemade firearm or any type of PARTS on a CNC machine.
Yes even all types of  parts are illegal under the bill.

Basiclly, anything (any and all components) made on a CNC, or cuts made by a computer is illegal !

The law, as written, is far too vague. It could definitely be applied to parts made on a CNC machine that are perfectly legal at this time. On purpose, without a doubt

Time to start writing letters.