Aloha!

My name is Tom. 

As I'm sure you are aware, you are a subject of discussion in the gun community.  Not a large subject, but in recent weeks, a recurring one.  Please, don't feel singled out, there are lots of topics of discussion here!

Many people in the shooting community see you as anti-gun.  They believe your intention is to close the Koko Head Shooting Complex.  They believe you are willing to conduct yourself in immoral, even illegal, manners to do so.  Many people even believe that you have manufactured evidence of bullet strikes as a means to this end.  If you are reading this post, certainly none of this is a surprise to you.

There's fairly compelling evidence that you are monitoring this forum.  Turns of phrase first used here have appeared in your public utterances.  It is naive to believe that members of the gun community would not follow your thoughts, if you are also following theirs. 

I invite you, sir, to declare yourself.  I am an optimist, a romantic, and possessed of a certain naivety myself.  I would like nothing more to believe than that you were a citizen who, although supportive of Constitutional rights, was legitimately concerned for the safety of yourself, your family, and your neighbors.  I ask you, in the spirit of compromise and problem solving, to come forward.  Although there may be some here who may deride you, be assured there are also those who will listen. 

If a public declaration is too uncomfortable, or if you feel my invitation to be some sort of ruse, allow me to extend another.  I believe that beer is a great equalizer amongst the members of the human condition.  Contact me privately (my information is available via my profile) and I will gladly pick up the tab in exchange for an evening of frank conversation.

No tricks, no subterfuge, no hidden cameras.  All of this forum as my witness.

Tom G

Hi Tom.   

Tom,

Ummm... were you looking for the Drunken Posts thread ? 

Tom,

Ummm... were you looking for the Drunken Posts thread ? 

Nope. 

You haven't figured me out yet.  I don't bullshit, I don't lie.  I say exactly what I mean, and I mean exactly what I say.  Yes, I choose my words carefully, so reading between the lines can be important, but I am exactly this open.  Label it optimistic, naive, or stupid as you see fit!

[EDIT]Oh, dammit, this would have been SUCH a good place to post your quote about being a fool or a tool! 

Nope. 

You haven't figured me out yet.  I don't bullshit, I don't lie.  I say exactly what I mean, and I mean exactly what I say.  Yes, I choose my words carefully, so reading between the lines can be important, but I am exactly this open.  Label it optimistic, naive, or stupid as you see fit!

I guess you don't speak sarcasm ... 

I guess you don't speak sarcasm ... 

Yeah, see, I actually do have a problem with recognizing sarcasm.  I'm a very literal person. 

I guess you don't speak sarcasm ... 

Hey Darmok, Tom is trying to accomplish something here.

For once, try not to be the village idiot and let Tom do his thing.

Tom_G I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I think you're wasting your time on him.  He's just an Oxygen thief.


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Good luck Tom, hope your efforts are fruitful ! 

     As a relatively newcomer to this organization, I have attended only one range session and one GTG but have found interaction with HDF most enjoyable and at times, amusing.
I do support Tom in his efforts and would greatly enjoy accompanying he and Mr. K for libations and discussion (as well as buy the second round).
I too tend to enjoy both sides of the story.
 I  think Mr. K is more of a wine drinker so lets pick some place with a nice selection.
 

Aloha!

My name is Tom. 

As I'm sure you are aware, you are a subject of discussion in the gun community.  Not a large subject, but in recent weeks, a recurring one.  Please, don't feel singled out, there are lots of topics of discussion here!

Many people in the shooting community see you as anti-gun.  They believe your intention is to close the Koko Head Shooting Complex.  They believe you are willing to conduct yourself in immoral, even illegal, manners to do so.  Many people even believe that you have manufactured evidence of bullet strikes as a means to this end.  If you are reading this post, certainly none of this is a surprise to you.

There's fairly compelling evidence that you are monitoring this forum.  Turns of phrase first used here have appeared in your public utterances.  It is naive to believe that members of the gun community would not follow your thoughts, if you are also following theirs. 

I invite you, sir, to declare yourself.  I am an optimist, a romantic, and possessed of a certain naivety myself.  I would like nothing more to believe than that you were a citizen who, although supportive of Constitutional rights, was legitimately concerned for the safety of yourself, your family, and your neighbors.  I ask you, in the spirit of compromise and problem solving, to come forward.  Although there may be some here who may deride you, be assured there are also those who will listen. 

If a public declaration is too uncomfortable, or if you feel my invitation to be some sort of ruse, allow me to extend another.  I believe that beer is a great equalizer amongst the members of the human condition.  Contact me privately (my information is available via my profile) and I will gladly pick up the tab in exchange for an evening of frank conversation.

No tricks, no subterfuge, no hidden cameras.  All of this forum as my witness.

Tom G

right on Tom G

right on Tom G

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It's a nice gesture, but a futile one.

Knudsen is a liar and a coward. He won't respond.

Nope. 

You haven't figured me out yet.  I don't bullshit, I don't lie.  I say exactly what I mean, and I mean exactly what I say.  Yes, I choose my words carefully, so reading between the lines can be important, but I am exactly this open.  Label it optimistic, naive, or stupid as you see fit!

[EDIT]Oh, dammit, this would have been SUCH a good place to post your quote about being a fool or a tool!

Hey Tom,

I applaud your efforts. However, I do believe it is optimistic and naive. Your words. I am not trying to be insulting as I did not say it was stupid. I wish I had your optimism. My problem is that he is left leaning in his actions and the few words that he wrote and I have seen/heard. Anyone who is left thinking on this topic will never engage anyone who is capable of refuting his ideals. You see you have facts and historical data to back up your position. He has only his feelings. There would be nothing but a futile discussion if he agreed to meet and discuss this with you. If you try and speak logically with someone who only feels differently than you without any logic to back it up has nothing really compelling to say. And he would be afraid you might pop his utopian bubble. I hope I am wrong and he accepts your kind and generous offer and you two can come to a mutual understanding about how things are on both sides of this issue. 

Now, when are you gonna invite me out for a beer?!?!?!?!?!?   

I have offered you the Olive branch and you have used it for kindling.
Seems I hae received your side of the story and I would not enjoy your company.

     As a relatively newcomer to this organization, I have attended only one range session and one GTG but have found interaction with HDF most enjoyable and at times, amusing.
I do support Tom in his efforts and would greatly enjoy accompanying he and Mr. K for libations and discussion (as well as buy the second round).
I too tend to enjoy both sides of the story.
 I  think Mr. K is more of a wine drinker so lets pick some place with a nice selection.