Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation (Read 5662 times)

punaperson

Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« on: June 10, 2014, 05:04:52 PM »
I doubt an email or phone call to the White House (or any of our U.S. reps or senators) would have any effect, but still... I sent some anyway...

Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation, Vows to Act Without Congress:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/06/foghorn/obama-praises-australian-gun-confiscation-vows-act-without-congress/

Youtube video of Obama remarks (1:52):

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Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 05:23:34 PM »
It's the crazies that's the problem.  Not the law abiding. It is Obama king of the nut house?
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Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 05:27:39 PM »
If only his speech contained facts and not lies, exaggerations, and irrelevant comments.

He said no one should be able to walk up to a store and buy a gun without a background check so "we know who you are."

What stores are selling guns without an NICS check?  Which states?  For what guns? 

This man needs to check his facts.  Spreading lies to garner support for an anti-gun agenda is about as low as a President can get.

I'm proud of myself ... I watched the whole video without puking or stopping it after 10 seconds!  Time to take my blood pressure meds!
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punaperson

Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 05:49:08 PM »
If only his speech contained facts and not lies, exaggerations, and irrelevant comments.
If only that lament applied only to Obama... alas, it equally applies to every other "gun control" advocate: Bloomberg, Watts, Schumer, Feinstein, Biden, Clinton, King, McCarthy, Markey, The Brady Campaign, The Coalition Against Gun Violence, The Violence Policy Center, et. al.

It's almost as if they need to lie, distort, tell half-truths, cherry-pick data, etc. because, well, the actual facts make their ideological positions on civilian disarmament clearly baseless.

As John Lott just put it yesterday: "Unfortunately, Bloomberg is the worst type of gun control true-believer: the type who believes his goals justify making up facts."

Six Falsehoods Pushed By Bloomberg’s Gun Control Apparatchiks

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/09/six-falsehoods-pushed-by-bloombergs-gun-control-apparatchiks/

edster48

Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 08:05:53 AM »
I couldn't make it through the whole thing. Lasted to the point he said " won't take some basic steps" and realized he was repeating the same old rubbish.

Background checks are in place, they work to the extent that they can. The fact is, only law abiding people are subjected to them, so they're missing 98% of the criminals.

I wonder why he doesn't EVER mention the 20-50 people killed in gang violence EVERY WEEKEND in Chicago?
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punaperson

Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 08:39:00 AM »
I wonder why he doesn't EVER mention the 20-50 people killed in gang violence EVERY WEEKEND in Chicago?
The numbers of Chicago homicides are lower than that, even allowing for the minimizing and covering up of the real statistics by the police (http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/), but... Doesn't fit the narrative? Not "white" people? Politically incorrect to talk about the fact that the vast majority of firearm homicides are committed by racial "minority" members upon other racial "minority" members, and most of those, both the perpetrators and the victims, have prior criminal records and illegally possess illegal guns? Seems like there'd be plenty to discuss there, but no... Obama talks about buying a semi-auto at a "store" without a background check... and he's the friggin' president and supposed to be a "smart guy".  :wtf:

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Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2014, 12:07:51 PM »
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Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2014, 12:48:32 PM »
As they say in another forum I read..ahem ahem..FBHO!

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Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2014, 01:03:32 PM »
i wouldnt be surprised if he does some ridiculous semi auto import ban

edster48

Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 07:40:08 AM »
The numbers of Chicago homicides are lower than that, even allowing for the minimizing and covering up of the real statistics by the police (http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/), but... Doesn't fit the narrative? Not "white" people? Politically incorrect to talk about the fact that the vast majority of firearm homicides are committed by racial "minority" members upon other racial "minority" members, and most of those, both the perpetrators and the victims, have prior criminal records and illegally possess illegal guns? Seems like there'd be plenty to discuss there, but no... Obama talks about buying a semi-auto at a "store" without a background check... and he's the friggin' president and supposed to be a "smart guy".  :wtf:

You're right puna, I should've said the number of people shot, not killed. In my defense I can only say that, once again, the WH occupier pissed me off with his anti American rhetoric.
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punaperson

Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 08:35:31 AM »
You're right puna, I should've said the number of people shot, not killed. In my defense I can only say that, once again, the WH occupier pissed me off with his anti American rhetoric.
Assaulted, shot at, shot, killed, killed with firearm... whatever stat you want to look at in Chicago (or Baltimore or Trenton or Los Angeles etc.), that stat will dwarf the numbers that Moms Demand Action from Illegal Mayors wail and lie about when a single non-minority is killed by a mentally deranged non-minority. You'd think that sheer numbers would count and thus be in some way proportionally deserving of discussing... but no. Instead we hear more lies from them (Shannon Watts claims there is no data to support the claim that guns are ever used in self-defense or to stop "mass shooters"...  :wtf:), including "our" president uttering imbecilities when the teleprompter isn't available (and even when it is, e.g. "40% of all gun sales take place without a background check"). HFS! So, yeah, I understand your reaction... at least several times a day I am uttering profanities at high decibels at my computer screen when reading the latest inane lies of these people.  :shaka:

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punaperson

Re: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2014, 08:42:50 AM »
An Aussie chimes in on the President's comments (my emphasis):

Dear Mr. President,

You recently hailed “Australian gun laws”. In doing so, you praised a government for forcefully removing all semi-automatic firearms from its populace, you admired the banning and confiscation of guns. We expect to hear that from a European leader. But not you. You’re the leader of America: the world’s first free country, the nation that has inspired many to be free, that has protected the freedom of others, that has spread more freedom than any other. I am an Australian and I must set the record straight . . .

The “success” of the 1996 Australian gun reform is a myth. The only thing achieved was to take away the guns of the law-abiding, leaving only the criminals armed. Is this what you wish for America?

In Australia, if a citizen has firearms, the police have a right to search their property without a warrant any time. Does that sound like America? The laws you praise outlawed the Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun that my father played with as a child. Now you need a special permit, gun safe and serial number.

For what? There are just as many guns on the street today. Gun crime is no lower. In Australia, mass shootings have been a rare event. If strict gun laws mean no massacres, explain Britain’s Cumbria shootings, Monkseaton and Dunblane. Or Anders Breivik of Norway?

Gun laws achieve very little. Mass shootings are about illness, not guns. Any other so-called “gun issue”, if there are any, is related to the breakdown of the family, cultural decline and the age of entitlement.

The Second Amendment defines American exceptionalism. It speaks to the character of America, and reflects why America is America. Civilian disarmament is based on the assumption that people are irresponsible (unless they work for the government). America was founded on the opposite premise. Don’t make America a namby-pamby society.

The right to bear arms is not wrong nor unnecessary. It is:

- the greatest test of genuine freedom,
- the best protection of you, your family and your property,
- the ultimate deterrent against government overreach.

The Constitutional right to bear arms is pivotal. The American idea is a value system. If you take away the guns of America, you take away America.

Mr. President, your country is the one the world relies on. Right now, it is at a tipping point. Forget guns. Focus on ending the waste, paying back the debt, limiting the government and axing political correctness. That’s how you’ll get America to boomerang.

Your country is the greatest in the world, and respectfully, Sir, you should stop apologizing for it. Keep it up, and America will be just another European state. And that’s not good for anyone.

Yours Sincerely,
Nick Adams

Nick Adams is the author of The American Boomerang- How The World’s Greatest Turnaround Nation Will Do It Again.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/06/robert-farago/aussies-open-letter-president-obama-gun-control/#more-324369