Defensive Handgun II

Friday, 29 August, 8am-5pm

Saturday, 30 August, noon-after dark

Wayne Holu of Koa Services will be on the Big Island August 29 and 30; don't miss this opportunity to take your handgun skills to the next level.


    Natural Point of Aim stance
    Presentation of Firearm from holster
    Techniques to the 1.5 presentation
    Proper re-holstering
    Reloading techniques
    Malfunction clearances
    One-handed shooting/Strong and support
    Kneeling/Strong and support
    Prone shooting
    Failure to stop
    Shooting from cover
    Slicing the pie/barricades
    Access and scan
    Moving and shooting from ready
    Speed rock
    Turn left, right, 180 degrees
    Multiple threats
    Shoot no shoot
    KOA Qualifications Test


600 rounds total; bring at least six round of whatever defensive ammo you prefer.


Two day class – 16 hours; see hours above


Included in the course is some (optional) shooting in low light conditions  We'll stay late on 30 August and shoot after dark.

Bring a (hand held) flashlight; absolutely NO gun mounted lights.


Cost:normally $400.00 and you'd have to go to Oahu; but you can take it in East Hawaii for $325.

To sign up (and get directions to the range), call Carlina at 808 959-8763

fine cigars following the class?

The low light (optional) portion sounds very interesting.  Not many of us are able to practice/shoot very much in low/no light conditions. 

Just curious as to some thinking/reasoning behind the "absolutely NO gun mounted lights".  Instructor preference?  Problems in previous classes associated with gun mounted lights? 

600 rounds sounds like a good couple of days of shooting.  Thankfully ammo prices have come down since the craziness of late 2012. 

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I don't know why Wayne doesn't want any gun mounted lights, but I know why I don't put a light on my gun: it violates too many safety rules.  Pointing your gun at something, then turning on the light to see what it is is a VERY BAD IDEA.

I don't know why Wayne doesn't want any gun mounted lights, but I know why I don't put a light on my gun: it violates too many safety rules.  Pointing your gun at something, then turning on the light to see what it is is a VERY BAD IDEA.

Ok

The reason why I asked is that I recall a articles on a few mainland PDs (I'd have to go back and check) either banning or recommending against gun mounted lights.  I believe one even cited that them banning them was due to a number of AD/NDs that THEY attributed to having gun mounted lights. 

As for training technique for uses of gun mounted lights, that's really a topic for a thread on it's own.  I'll just say here that you can illuminate a room, or usually most of a room, with a gun mounted light without pointing the gun directly at the area/subject that you're trying to illuminate/identify. 

We've taken several of Wayne's classes and have been very satisfied.

Here are some articles that I found on gun mounted lights.  I recall the Denver one, but I thought there were others, but I can't seem to find them now.

http://jonathanturley.org/2014/03/24/denver-police-order-review-after-a-series-of-accidental-shootings-involving-gun-mounted-flashlights/

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25387704/denver-police-chief-orders-added-training-after-accidental

http://rt.com/usa/164840-gun-mounted-flashlights-police-shooting/

"I've seen officers use a flashlight-mounted gun to help a person search their wallet for a driver's license. I've literally seen that on a traffic stop."

Ok, well, that's not good.   

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/training/deployment-pistol-mounted-ligh

Not saying that I agree with everything in these articles, just some discussion on that regard. 

Weapon mounted lights can be a huge advantage when deployed and utilized with a correct technique. Problems happen with lack of training, practice and perhaps complacency, but a correct technique is no more prone to issues as a hand held light. Having both is optimal.

I don't know why Wayne doesn't want any gun mounted lights, but I know why I don't put a light on my gun: it violates too many safety rules.  Pointing your gun at something, then turning on the light to see what it is is a VERY BAD IDEA.

I understand the concept, but don't necessarily agree.  There is enough indirect light that you can still make out your target, you don't necessarily need to be pointing the firearm directly at someone. 

Also depending on the light hold technique being used it matters a lot if you are coming off the right, left, top, bottom of cover/concealment.  For instance to clear off the right side of cover/concealment with the FBI hold (for a right hander) may mean you light doesn't even clear cover/concealment.  This means not only might you not illuminate your target, but blind yourself and light yourself up.

...........just goes to show that like all things firearms there is almost never one thing that is "best" for all situations, there is always some sort of compromise.


BTW as much as many people don't like to mount lights/lasers on pistols, the same argument is not made for doing the same with a shotgun or rifle......