Incorrect. A valid and current permit is a requirement for any loan exceeding 15 days. The statute is very clear on this (see below).
Anyone who truly supports gun rights, will stand behind the statement that, (WE) "gun owners are law abiding citizens". It is the cornerstone of any argument against new regulations that "only hurt those who follow the law". When we start getting into the whole, "What they don't know, can't hurt me" type of thinking....that's when we've lost the moral high ground of the argument.

The answer to the question is: 15 days starts as soon as he leaves the island and gives up direct control/access of the firearm.
You're free to do what you think is right. But consider the fluidity of California gun laws and how what is legal today, may not be tomorrow. You're going to be there on orders, you can't just up and leave if something changes. And I can not stress enough how the process of registration is a hassle. Just buy something after you get there if you're afraid of the rainbow zombie hoard in the bay area.

Also, something to consider...leaving them in state allows you to "grandfather" them in if anything changes here. 

Wasn't talking about a loan, we were talking about a transfer to his brother with registration in which case my statement is correct.

All of the above sounds like bad advice.

(1) access to vs. possession?   

So if someone left something illegal locked in a room of my house or in my autos locked glove box I could say that it's not mine because I don't have access but it's in my possession?

(2) the lowers are the firearm a lower stripped or not is the serialized component of the AR rifle and the part that needs to be registered and or transferred.

Good question. Maybe it depends if firearms can be stored at a self storage location? Consider the brother's house a self storage space and pay him rent?

All of the above sounds like bad advice.

(1) access to vs. possession?   

So if someone left something illegal locked in a room of my house or in my autos locked glove box I could say that it's not mine because I don't have access but it's in my possession?

(2) the lowers are the firearm a lower stripped or not is the serialized component of the AR rifle and the part that needs to be registered and or transferred.

Really?  So if I leave the house with a safe full of handguns, and another member of the family doesn't have the combination or keys, I'd be arrested?

Think about it.

Really?  So if I leave the house with a safe full of handguns, and another member of the family doesn't have the combination or keys, I'd be arrested?

Think about it.

In your own home that would be acceptable.

If you left firearms in someone else's home then there could be violations of the law. Handguns can't be loaned and long guns only for 15 days as per the HRS.

Wasn't talking about a loan, we were talking about a transfer to his brother with registration in which case my statement is correct.

I understand that some topics are extremely long and difficult to follow. With all the quotes, responses, and off topic statements...sometimes a flow chart is needed to completely comprehend what is going on.

You responded to the OP's request for clarification on my post to him:

Quote from: Colt808 on October 21, 2015, 03:28:31 PM

The procedures related to registration for out of state military suck. Leave them here. As long as your brother has and maintains a permit to acquire, you don't need to transfer.

he does indeed have one at the moment. are you saying he has to renew his every year in order for my guns to be at his house?

Quote from: Drakiir84 on October 22, 2015, 12:09:25 PM

The permit is only necessary to acquire, not to own.  He can have them indefinitely without an active permit.

For brevity, I left out the first post as only the very last sentence was applicable to the above. 

The quoted, "my guns to be at his house" does not imply transfer. It is by definition a loan (long term in this case) and is clearly the understanding between myself and the OP. That being the case, your response is incorrect. And this is not about who is right or wrong here, so don't take offense...it's about understanding the topic, then making sure the correct information is given so people do things right and legal.

Nevertheless, I concede that you would indeed be correct if we were discussing transfer, but that is not the case.

Howzit op. I was stationed in Cali and I called the state firearms unit in 2002. Back then they told me I could bring my at as well as any hi cap mags since I am not a Cali resident and don't plan to be. But you need to bring your orders to the sheriff or Le agency along with rifle and pay $75 for the permit. But this was in 2002 so best to call. Also need to check base regs as they may be ultra strict. Personally owned firearms in the base armory etc.

Has it ever been resolved whether firearms can legally be stored in one of those self storage units?

TOPIC: Firearms in Commercial Self-Storage

Question: I just got a one-year temporary assignment to the Mainland from my employer. I will need to give up my rented apartment
and place all of my household goods into storage. Can I legally store my firearms and ammunition in a commercial self-storage facility?

Answer: No. You have a problem. You can only store firearms in your residence, place of work (if allowed), and a gun shop; otherwise,
it is a violation of the “place to keep” section of Chapter 134 HRS. Additionally, many self-storage businesses prohibit firearms and
ammunition. However, components like unprimed brass and bullets are not a problem although many self-storage companies may
elect to prohibit these items as well.

One solution is to have a FFL dealer store your firearms in a gun shop. However, this will require the dealer to enter the firearms into
the AFT book and obtain a HPD dealer registration. You will need to re-register your firearms when you regain possession.

Another option is to move to the home of a family member or friend. Re-establish that address as your official Hawaii residence (have
some of your mail sent there; register to vote at that address) and move all your firearms and ammunition into a secured locked area
or safe at that address. Then leave on your temporary assignment.

http://hawaiihistoricarms.com/whats-the-law-firearms-in-commercial-self-storage/

TOPIC: Firearms in Commercial Self-Storage

Question: I just got a one-year temporary assignment to the Mainland from my employer. I will need to give up my rented apartment
and place all of my household goods into storage. Can I legally store my firearms and ammunition in a commercial self-storage facility?

Answer: No. You have a problem. You can only store firearms in your residence, place of work (if allowed), and a gun shop; otherwise,
it is a violation of the “place to keep” section of Chapter 134 HRS. Additionally, many self-storage businesses prohibit firearms and
ammunition. However, components like unprimed brass and bullets are not a problem although many self-storage companies may
elect to prohibit these items as well.

One solution is to have a FFL dealer store your firearms in a gun shop. However, this will require the dealer to enter the firearms into
the AFT book and obtain a HPD dealer registration. You will need to re-register your firearms when you regain possession.

Another option is to move to the home of a family member or friend. Re-establish that address as your official Hawaii residence (have
some of your mail sent there; register to vote at that address) and move all your firearms and ammunition into a secured locked area
or safe at that address. Then leave on your temporary assignment.

http://hawaiihistoricarms.com/whats-the-law-firearms-in-commercial-self-storage/

Good advice, the last is probably the option I would take.