So as a local resident, you get pulled over and you're asked if you have any weapons on you and declare your ccw as well as your out-of-state ccp. As long as your residence is in Hawaii, and you don't have a Hawaii ccp, you're in big trouble.

Same with any other state. California!

As long as your residence is California, and you don't have a California ccp, you're in big trouble.

So, if you're not a residence of Hawaii, and carry an out-of-state ccp, then you're safe. No harm done. Because the ccp is reciprocal to any state but your home state.

I don't think this law would help us much.

As a Hawaii resident you would still find yourself arrested by a Hawaii cop and in a Hawaii court with Hawaiian jurors defending yourself against Hawaii's CC laws. Unless you had the CC permit before moving here you'd have a tough time convincing the court that you weren't just trying to get around the law.

It would help ~in general~ though. Kinda like drivers' licenses. It would be nice to not have to worry about violating obscure local laws if you're just passing through. If one state decides that you are safe to drive (or carry) why would another state take issue with that? I'd get a CC permit somewhere just for when I'm traveling on the mainland.

I don't think this law would help us much.

As a Hawaii resident you would still find yourself arrested by a Hawaii cop and in a Hawaii court with Hawaiian jurors defending yourself against Hawaii's CC laws. Unless you had the CC permit before moving here you'd have a tough time convincing the court that you weren't just trying to get around the law.

It would help ~in general~ though. Kinda like drivers' licenses. It would be nice to not have to worry about violating obscure local laws if you're just passing through. If one state decides that you are safe to drive (or carry) why would another state take issue with that? I'd get a CC permit somewhere just for when I'm traveling on the mainland.

It's going to help plenty.  When a tourist can carry a gun but you can't... there are some obvious flaws in the system that will not stay around.

Email in my inbox today. Name changed.

November 29, 2011

 

 

 

Dear Mr. BUGLEBOY,

 

Thank you for your correspondence expressing your support for H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011. This legislation was introduced by Representative Cliff Stearns (FL) on February 18th, 2011.

 

The purpose of this bill is to amend the federal criminal code to authorize a person who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document and a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in one state, and who is not prohibited from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm under federal law, to carry a concealed handgun (other than a machine gun or destructive device) in another state in accordance with the restrictions of that state.

 

On November 16th, 2011 this legislation came to the House floor for consideration and passed by a vote of 272-154. I voted against this legislation as there are a number of disconcerting implications of this bill that must be considered.  First, because state laws regarding concealed carry permitting vary so widely, a permit in one state is not necessarily equal to another state's permit.  If this bill were to become law, someone who is denied a permit in their home state could technically go to a more lenient state and obtain the same permit with fewer restrictions.  Moreover, this bill would create a federal mandate and thereby essentially limit states' rights.

 

While we may not agree on this specific policy, I respect your views and always appreciate hearing from you regarding your thoughts on the critical issues facing our country.

 

Should similar matters be brought to the House floor for discussion and deliberation during the 112th Congress, I will be sure to keep your comments in mind.

 

Again, thank you for expressing your views on this crucial issue.  I hope you will continue to contact me on federal matters of concern to you.  If you would like regular updates, please sign up for my e-newsletter at http://hanabusa.house.gov

 

 


Sincerely,

Colleen Hanabusa
Member of Congress

woah i just checked my e mail and got the same message.  I wonder if it reads the same?  Seems pretty clear to me, that you cannot go to another state and obtain a ccw to carry in your residence state.
I feel like writing back and pointing that out to her.  Should i write back on my own, or we all come up with a response email to send back to her?  I bet she would also be surprised to know that there are residents here that have their ccw in places like AZ, and where ever else, (me personally i don't have any yet)


Dear Me,

 

Thank you for your correspondence expressing your support for H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011. This legislation was introduced by Representative Cliff Stearns (FL) on February 18th, 2011.

 

The purpose of this bill is to amend the federal criminal code to authorize a person who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document and a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in one state, and who is not prohibited from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm under federal law, to carry a concealed handgun (other than a machine gun or destructive device) in another state in accordance with the restrictions of that state.

 

On November 16th, 2011 this legislation came to the House floor for consideration and passed by a vote of 272-154. I voted against this legislation as there are a number of disconcerting implications of this bill that must be considered.  First, because state laws regarding concealed carry permitting vary so widely, a permit in one state is not necessarily equal to another state's permit.  If this bill were to become law, someone who is denied a permit in their home state could technically go to a more lenient state and obtain the same permit with fewer restrictions.  Moreover, this bill would create a federal mandate and thereby essentially limit states' rights.

 

While we may not agree on this specific policy, I respect your views and always appreciate hearing from you regarding your thoughts on the critical issues facing our country.

 

Should similar matters be brought to the House floor for discussion and deliberation during the 112th Congress, I will be sure to keep your comments in mind.

 

Again, thank you for expressing your views on this crucial issue.  I hope you will continue to contact me on federal matters of concern to you.  If you would like regular updates, please sign up for my e-newsletter at http://hanabusa.house.gov

 

 


Sincerely,

Colleen Hanabusa
Member of Congress

The first letter of each paragraph reads: TTOWSA.

Coincidence?...*puts on tinfoil*...I think not!

What does that stand for?

What does that stand for?

T[something] T[something] Occupy Wall Street. A[something].

Quote from: bass monkey on November 29, 2011, 11:52:47 AM

What does that stand for?

T[something] T[something] Occupy Wall Street. A[something].

The True Occupy Wall Street. Advocates.

now entering DEFCON 1!!!

I love it. The letter essential says:

Dear Constituent That I Represent:

My opinion is clearly better and more informed than yours. Thanks for participating in the process!

Of course the bill already passed the House so there isn't much to say other than what she did and why.