Hawaii 10th in gun ownership (Read 10529 times)

new guy

Re: Hawaii 10th in gun ownership
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2016, 09:06:22 PM »
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« Last Edit: August 10, 2016, 11:39:28 PM by new guy »
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macsak

Re: Hawaii 10th in gun ownership
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2016, 09:10:04 PM »
During Obama's recent interview, he stated that crime rates are the lowest since the 80's.  His propaganda is that everything is fine and the world is a safer place since he took office.   I know he knows that gun sales and ownership have skyrocketed in relation to his so called plunging crime rate.  But yet it's the evil black machine assault guns dat's killin too much folk nowdays and causin dem nice muslim yute to go on mass killin.
This guy is pure evil for those who see.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii 10th in gun ownership
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2016, 10:00:01 PM »
Disagree.

Force the anti-gun supporters to respond to information like this.

You assume they will see the logic of these reports.  They take these reports and pick out ONE example of strict laws and low gun deaths (like Hawaii), and they will never understand why the rest of the country can't replicate that record.

I've had this discussion with some very cordial anti-gun supporters, and while they see the logic, they still keep relying on bad stats to prove things that aren't proven at all.  I had some successes, but overall, they know only an agenda.  Any report that opposes their goal must be an NRA -backed report!

I even used the report I posted to dispel that correlation fallacy, but the other side couldn't get their head wrapped around something that argued against what they thought they already knew was fact.

"It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Hawaii 10th in gun ownership
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2016, 11:40:00 AM »
Disagree.

Force the anti-gun supporters to respond to information like this.

Anti-gunners don't have to do much work here to get what they want here, just propose a law.  Pro-gun people have to try and respond with the facts and have to do considerably more work on the defensive.

Getting good stat's on firearm ownership that is approved by all parties is very important for our cause.  It shows how many people are affected by laws, and also potential votes.  It may not turn everything around for us, but every little bit helps.