Planned to build a underground shelter, The city told me i had to wait a year for the application process to complete before any work may start.

You can use one of these in an emergency in the meantime

They can ban nuke usage in Hawaii without the proper permit, and available on a may issue basis only. .   That'll show him

The warning sirens do some good if you're at the outer fringes.  You'll survive the blast but will face collapsing homes, flying debris, shattered glass etc.

The warning sirens do some good if you're at the outer fringes.  You'll survive the blast but will face collapsing homes, flying debris, shattered glass etc.

Sounds like a normal situation for some parts of the islands! 

The warning sirens do some good if you're at the outer fringes.  You'll survive the blast but will face collapsing homes, flying debris, shattered glass etc.

I imagine nk guidance system to be somewhat cockeyed.  if they accidentally nuke one of the outer islands, we'll survive.

A warning would do nothing but cause panic, there is no place to be safe in the case of a nuclear attack, what exactly is the point?  Oh yeah, the illusion of doing something....  maybe pass more gun laws too while they are at it!  Lol!

I respectfully disagree.  The Norks are thought to have a 150kT Nuke payload that they can deliver to Hawaii.  This would incinerate a three mile radius above the target. 

The real danger outside that Zone is exposure to the radioactive debris (Fallout) that will rain down after the blast.  Getting inside and separating yourself from exposure from the radioactivity is the key.  Most of the radiation will be gone after 3 days.  Being able to seal up windows, doors, AC intakes is vital to making sure the radiation stays outside. 

https://www.ready.gov/nuclear-blast

I respectfully disagree.  The Norks are thought to have a 150kT Nuke payload that they can deliver to Hawaii.  This would incinerate a three mile radius above the target. 

The real danger outside that Zone is exposure to the radioactive debris (Fallout) that will rain down after the blast.  Getting inside and separating yourself from exposure from the radioactivity is the key.  Most of the radiation will be gone after 3 days.  Being able to seal up windows, doors, AC intakes is vital to making sure the radiation stays outside. 

https://www.ready.gov/nuclear-blast

I agree with what you are saying. Problem is within 5 minutes of the attack warning the roads will be completely gridlocked with people trying to buy rice, water, and toilet paper...   lol


Most of these sheeple here would lose their minds, and wouldn't know one thing to do.  They can even do a simple task such as vote..   We would be screwed.

Couldn't agree more.  I carry a 72 hour bag in my car but it may be helpful to create a network of friends Island wide each of us could hole up with if the balloon goes up.

I am part of my community emergency response team and I can tell you they don't have real grasp of how to handle it.  The state is only in the planning phase of how to plan for this event... yes you read that right. 

I agree with what you are saying. Problem is within 5 minutes of the attack warning the roads will be completely gridlocked with people trying to buy rice, water, and toilet paper...   lol


Most of these sheeple here would lose their minds, and wouldn't know one thing to do.  They can even do a simple task such as vote..   We would be screwed.

Was talking about this with a coworker when the test sirens were going off.  The attack warning is effectively a signal to get indoors and close things up.  If you hear a boom and you're still alive after that, you're going to be in for hell.  We were joking that if it did go down, probably better to be vaporized than live through the fallout. 

Basically, the NK has one shot at launching a missile at us. The purpose of their nuclear program is to keep us from performing a regime-change, ala Iraq or even Syria with their nuclear program. Once they launch the missile, the peninsula will be bombed to the stone age (it's already almost there). The question is how accurate is their missile assuming they can develop a workable reentry vehicle that won't burn up the nuke. Hawaii is a small target in a big ocean. The last missile got close to Japan. If they accidentally hit Japan, then we can accidentally shoot one of our missiles at them, and the escalation starts. I'm more fearful for Japan than I am about us. Eventually, the NK will get to the point where they will need to test their long range missile, and shit will start getting real then.

If I were North Korea or Iran then I'd want nuclear weapons too. Look what happened to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Yemen. Our suicidal foreign policy is like the crazy neighbor down the street with a baseball bat smashing up everyone's car. The only people he doesn't mess with are the ones who are armed. This is all to distract us from the fact that the American Dream is dead and all that's left to do is for the political scam artists and criminal elite to steal everything that's not tied down.

Basically, the NK has one shot at launching a missile at us. The purpose of their nuclear program is to keep us from performing a regime-change, ala Iraq or even Syria with their nuclear program. Once they launch the missile, the peninsula will be bombed to the stone age (it's already almost there). The question is how accurate is their missile assuming they can develop a workable reentry vehicle that won't burn up the nuke. Hawaii is a small target in a big ocean. The last missile got close to Japan. If they accidentally hit Japan, then we can accidentally shoot one of our missiles at them, and the escalation starts. I'm more fearful for Japan than I am about us. Eventually, the NK will get to the point where they will need to test their long range missile, and shit will start getting real then.

If NK does intentionally attack they will use more than one missile. I would target Hawaii, Guam, San Diego, DC, LongBeach, and Central Valley.  Those targets would cripple us and allow China to gain a stronger presence in the Pacific while we regroup.

If NK does intentionally attack they will use more than one missile. I would target Hawaii, Guam, San Diego, DC, LongBeach, and Central Valley.  Those targets would cripple us and allow China to gain a stronger presence in the Pacific while we regroup.

High altitude detonation for EMP over DC, Kansas, California and Hawaii.

High altitude detonation for EMP over DC, Kansas, California and Hawaii.

Good thing firearms are analog and not digital, unless you got one of those useless ones that require a special bracelet or ring to fire.

Good thing firearms are analog and not digital, unless you got one of those useless ones that require a special bracelet or ring to fire.

TBH in a TEOTWAWKI situation it wont matter how prepared you are and how many guns you have.

Damaging but not devastating. We probably wouldn't have power for weeks. Meanwhile, that would provoke us to carpet bomb the NK missile sites and there's nothing the Chinese could do about it.

"The EMP observed at the Apia Observatory at Samoa was four times more powerful than any created by solar storms, while in July 1962 the Starfish Prime test damaged electronics in Honolulu and New Zealand (approximately 1,300 kilometers away), fused 300 street lights on Oahu (Hawaii), set off about 100 burglar alarms, and caused the failure of a microwave repeating station on Kauai, which cut off the sturdy telephone system from the other Hawaiian islands."

Damaging but not devastating. We probably wouldn't have power for weeks. Meanwhile, that would provoke us to carpet bomb the NK missile sites and there's nothing the Chinese could do about it.

"The EMP observed at the Apia Observatory at Samoa was four times more powerful than any created by solar storms, while in July 1962 the Starfish Prime test damaged electronics in Honolulu and New Zealand (approximately 1,300 kilometers away), fused 300 street lights on Oahu (Hawaii), set off about 100 burglar alarms, and caused the failure of a microwave repeating station on Kauai, which cut off the sturdy telephone system from the other Hawaiian islands."

An EMP on modern america would be devastating. Everything is controlled by computers most of which have no or inadequate shielding. there is no fixing electronics damaged by EMP.

http://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/353996-north-korea-won-the-battle-against-americas-emp-commission