Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets (Read 9474 times)

HiCarry

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« on: February 02, 2012, 10:37:53 AM »
Interesting study by the Cato Institute

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/new-cato-study-tough-targets/

Not that we didn't already know this......

Cougar8045

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 01:42:54 PM »
Here's good paragraph from the paper:

Quote from: Cato Institute
Perhaps the most widely publicized
shooting involving a concealed carry licensee
in the last few years clearly prevented
the murder of at least dozens of people. The
criminal was a mentally ill young man who
had already killed four people in the previous
12 hours. On December 10, 2007, Jeanne
Assam used a gun in the lobby of New Life
Church, in Colorado Springs. Matthew Murray
was carrying “two handguns, an assault
rifle and over 1,000 rounds of ammunition.”
He had already killed two people in the parking
lot and two others the previous night. He
entered the lobby firing his rifle—but Assam,
a former police officer, shot him, ending the
killing spree.

I'm going to start using that when people claim that permit holders aren't/could't be a deterrent to school or mall shooters.  And as the bed-wetters at the Brady Campaign are fond of saying, "If it saves even one life..."  Well, A-holes, how 'bout a couple dozen?
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

Cougar8045

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 01:45:54 PM »
Another juicy tale:

Quote from: Cato Institute
The criminals of yesteryear commonly
selected a target, evaluated the risk potential,
and then faced the unknown hazards
of executing a crime. Rather than go to all
that effort, and attack a victim in their own
home or shop, or in “neutral territory” on
the street, criminals are now using regional
Internet sales websites like Craigslist, or
phoning bogus pizza orders, to lure victims
to them. One such case occurred in Galion,
Ohio, where a man agreed to meet a prospective
seller of construction equipment.
Fortunately, the buyer was a concealed carry
licensee. He took two handguns with him to
the meeting place in a remote quarry. The
“sale” turned out to be an ambush, and the
buyer was forced to empty both weapons to
repel the robbers

But why would anybody NEED more than a 10-round magazine?   :grrr:
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 07:03:57 PM »
Noooooo really.. Tougher huh.... Wow there smart. No wonder they get payed the big bucks. :)

Dregs

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 09:34:13 AM »
Noooooo really.. Tougher huh.... Wow there they're smart. No wonder they get payed paid the big bucks. :)

 >:D
Spelling Nazi wuz hea.

HiCarry

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 10:18:38 AM »
Noooooo really.. Tougher huh.... Wow there smart. No wonder they get payed the big bucks. :)
Not sure your intent/implication here, but remember, one of the arguments the "antis" always present is that having a gun only increases the odds that you'll be injured and won't help you against violent criminals. And, further, that there is a dearth of credible studies that support "our" contention that having a gun increases our odds of surviving a violent attack. So, any study that validates our contention is something we should embrace and use.

DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 11:47:20 AM »
>:D
Spelling Nazi wuz hea.
bwahahahahha :D

DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 11:55:39 AM »
Not sure your intent/implication here, but remember, one of the arguments the "antis" always present is that having a gun only increases the odds that you'll be injured and won't help you against violent criminals. And, further, that there is a dearth of credible studies that support "our" contention that having a gun increases our odds of surviving a violent attack. So, any study that validates our contention is something we should embrace and use.
Relax I was being very sarcastic. To hear this is great but also funny at the same.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 01:45:20 PM by DonRow »

antoinebugleboy

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 01:37:53 PM »
Relax I was being very sarcastic. The Cato is as left as it can get so to hear this is great but also funny at the same.

Cato is left? This is news to me.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. - Heinlein

I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. - Rand

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. - Hitchens

DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 01:44:31 PM »
Cato is left? This is news to me.
Ahh shit sorry about that comment. I don't know what I was thinking. I was thinking of something else.

Funtimes

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 02:11:01 PM »
Ahh shit sorry about that comment. I don't know what I was thinking. I was thinking of something else.

Lol :) I was going to let you know that Cato is the one who brought you Heller v. District of Columbia.
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DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 02:12:47 PM »
Lol :) I was going to let you know that Cato is the one who brought you Heller v. District of Columbia.
I'm losing it bwahahahahha :) wait I lost it a long time ago. Lol

HiCarry

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 03:28:47 PM »
Relax I was being very sarcastic. To hear this is great but also funny at the same.
I am relaxed...just didn't know the context of your statement....sarcasm isn't always so apparent. Thanks.

DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 03:49:36 PM »
I am relaxed...just didn't know the context of your statement....sarcasm isn't always so apparent. Thanks.
:)

Kingkeoni

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 04:04:26 PM »
Cato?

Wasn't he part of the O.J. trial?
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Funtimes

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 06:00:50 PM »
:)

Aren't we supposed to use purple fonts for sarcasm?!?!!?
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DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2012, 06:25:52 PM »
Purple? Howbout pink?

Kingkeoni

Re: Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 07:07:41 PM »
Purple? Howbout pink?

Pink doesn't stand out as good as purple but even green might be nice.

Who says we have to follow another forums rules?
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

DonRow

Cato Institute study - Armed civillians are tough targets
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 07:25:20 PM »
Pink doesn't stand out as good as purple but even green might be nice.

Who says we have to follow another forums rules?
green brings out your eyes. :) but I don't think it's going to match my "man bag" LOL