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« on: May 29, 2018, 02:40:15 AM »
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London808

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2018, 07:13:26 AM »
Shooting bullets in the air is reckless endangerment.... you have no idea where they are going to land.

With regards to terroistic threatening, shooting a gun in the air on your own property wouldn’t have that charge. There must be more to the story, please don’t share it here tho as you will more then likely incriminate yourself further.

You need to contact a criminal defense attorney. But be prepared to pay for it.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

changemyoil66

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2018, 08:38:06 AM »
I'm not an attorney, but from how I understand "wreck-less endangering", is if the round passes your property line.  So if you shot in the air, it is possible, unless you have a huge area of land.  This would be for your attorney and the state to prove.  And keep in mind, everything you say can be documented.

What I was taught in my handgun class was the following example:  You're clearing your gun and it goes off.  Round goes out the window or threw the wall.  It's WE.  If you're pointing the gun at your floor and cops come and you can show them the round that went off, then not as bad.  My instructor suggested to buy a ballistic pad and point the muzzle at that when "clearing" a gun.  This way if it does go off, the pad will catch the round that you can show to the police.

ren

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2018, 09:20:44 AM »
Deeds Not Words

zippz

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2018, 09:52:34 AM »
Beware what you write on here it can be used in court against you.  If what you wrote on here is exactly what you told the police, then no prob.  However if you didn't tell the police that then it could become a problem later.

zippz

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2018, 10:15:26 AM »
Should watch this video, relevant if you're a suspect.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=27747.msg245529#msg245529

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2018, 11:16:04 AM »
There's a agriculture zoning lawyer mentioned in this article:

Neighbors Up In Arms Over Shooting Range

The title is a bit of an exaggeration if you read the article.

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20120916/281556583022963
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

TooFewPews

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2018, 11:51:41 AM »
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0707/HRS_0707-0714.htm

     §707-714  Reckless endangering in the second degree.  (1)  A person commits the offense of reckless endangering in the second degree if the person:

     (a)  Engages in conduct that recklessly places another person in danger of death or serious bodily injury; or

     (b)  Intentionally discharges a firearm in a populated area, in a residential area, or within the boundaries or in the direction of any road, street, or highway; provided that the provisions of this paragraph shall not apply to any person who discharges a firearm upon a target range for the purpose of the target shooting done in compliance with all laws and regulations applicable thereto.

     (2)  Reckless endangering in the second degree is a misdemeanor. [L 1972, c 9, pt of §1; am L 1990, c 62, §1; gen ch 1992; am L 2006, c 230, §30]

 

changemyoil66

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2018, 12:43:58 PM »
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0707/HRS_0707-0714.htm

     §707-714  Reckless endangering in the second degree.  (1)  A person commits the offense of reckless endangering in the second degree if the person:

     (a)  Engages in conduct that recklessly places another person in danger of death or serious bodily injury; or

     (b)  Intentionally discharges a firearm in a populated area, in a residential area, or within the boundaries or in the direction of any road, street, or highway; provided that the provisions of this paragraph shall not apply to any person who discharges a firearm upon a target range for the purpose of the target shooting done in compliance with all laws and regulations applicable thereto.

     (2)  Reckless endangering in the second degree is a misdemeanor. [L 1972, c 9, pt of §1; am L 1990, c 62, §1; gen ch 1992; am L 2006, c 230, §30]

"Intent" seems to be the key word.

London808

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2018, 01:07:04 PM »
"Intent" seems to be the key word.

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 His intent was to fire the firearm as Indicated by his admission of doing it.

One could argue that AG zoned area are neither populated or residential
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

changemyoil66

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2018, 04:32:18 PM »
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 His intent was to fire the firearm as Indicated by his admission of doing it.

One could argue that AG zoned area are neither populated or residential
The example i posted  was incorrect.

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RSN172

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2018, 05:38:05 PM »
I never had a problem shooting on my ag zoned property of only 3 acres (on the Big Island).  But I only shoot for 15 to 30 minutes and not for hours like the guy in that article stated. 
Happily living in Puna

Gordyf

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2018, 07:06:04 PM »
At the risk of sounding like an ass, but you did ask for suggestions, I suggest that you review the sections in your training that addressed
never aiming over or above the horizon, and always being sure of your backstop.
Maybe next time shots into the ground?
Aloha
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Gordy

ren

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2018, 07:07:02 PM »
blanks?
Deeds Not Words

bass monkey

Re: Possible Unlawful Oahu Arrest In An Agricultural Area
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2018, 07:22:40 PM »
 If you need help controlling and/ or maintaining wild pigs on your property I could help and be of service to you.