NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM (Read 2057 times)

punaperson

NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« on: February 11, 2019, 09:45:36 AM »
I'm so bent by this bill, that I'm at a loss for words.

Here are the main features of the bill (would only apply if any person in the state ever got a license to carry):

Makes term of a license to carry (concealed or unconcealed) six months (most states are 3-5 years).
Requires a firearm safety/use-of-force legal info course (as approved by the respective county chief of police) of at least 8 hours (paid for by applicant, of course) within 30 days prior to each six-month renewal application.
Mandates that any approved licensee MUST carry an electric gun at all times when carrying an approved firearm. Not possessing the electric gun requires that the license "shall be revoked".

This is what they now tout as "commonsense gun safety regulations".  :rofl:   Wait.  :wtf:

What can we expect Wednesday at 10AM? Unanimous approval in committee? Amended to:  Make the term of the license a "more reasonable" 7 months (or "safer" 3 months)? Make the course requirement 16 hours and include passing the Hawaii state bar exam and achieving a minimal black belt level in some martial art as approved by the county police chiefs? Mandate the carrying of pepper/chemical spray, an expandable baton, and a nerf bat?

Mdotweber

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 10:06:19 AM »
I am off on wed,and can attend the hearing. anybody have any good points for me to counter with?
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

zippz

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 10:12:26 AM »
I am off on wed,and can attend the hearing. anybody have any good points for me to counter with?

Go with your own experience.  The required training and application every 6 months would be a burden on you and your family.  Having to take time off from work to have to do this.

zippz

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 10:13:27 AM »
It's best to have different points of view on testimony, not just the same thing.  How it affects you is the best.

changemyoil66

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 10:45:16 AM »
Submitted with "Oppose with amendments" written.  Change 6 months to 5 years and remove the taser requiement because tasers are illegal.

punaperson

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 10:48:51 AM »
Submitted with "Oppose with amendments" written.  Change 6 months to 5 years and remove the taser requiement because tasers are illegal.
The bill generously repeals the ban on electric guns so that they may be mandated as a condition of firearms carry licenses...

zippz

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 11:15:04 AM »
I think Lee combined the CCW restrictions and electric gun repeal knowing that there is an urgency to pass a electric gun ban repeal due to Andrew v Ballard lawsuit.  There was also the likely hood that Hawaii could get CCW/Open if en banc was denied in the Young v HI case.

I feel like Lee wants to push this through but other legislators will balk at the restrictions.

changemyoil66

Re: NON-rant re HB1486. Testimony due Tuesday, 10 AM
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 11:25:16 AM »


I feel like Lee wants to push this through but other legislators will balk at the restrictions.

You mean more restrictions?  Instead of a 6 month term, 3 month?