Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons] (Read 4188 times)

punaperson

Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« on: August 04, 2019, 09:54:10 PM »
Expect to see a raft of these editorials in the next few days calling for immediate action to ban weapons, using absurd logical and factual fallacies like below (semi-automatic long guns are "not in common use" AND are "used only in mass shootings". Really? How fucking dumb are these people? Or are they liars? Or both? Dem prez candidate Liz Warren has called for a senate session to be called within 48 hours in the attempt to mimic the rushed New Zealand style bans enacted immediately after the Christchurch shooting there.

EDIT: link to full editorial: https://nypost.com/2019/08/04/the-post-says-ban-assault-weapons-now/

The Post says: Ban assault weapons now



"The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment protects the right to own “guns in common use.” That doesn’t cover the semiautomatic weapons regularly used only in mass shootings."
« Last Edit: August 04, 2019, 10:13:35 PM by punaperson »

ren

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2019, 10:08:48 PM »
Expect to see a raft of these editorials in the next few days calling for immediate action to ban weapons, using absurd logical and factual fallacies like below (semi-automatic long guns are "not in common use" AND are "used only in mass shootings". Really? How fucking dumb are these people? Or are they liars? Or both? Dem prez candidate Liz Warren has called for a senate session to be called within 48 hours in the attempt to mimic the rushed New Zealand style bans enacted immediately after the Christchurch shooting there.

The Post says: Ban assault weapons now



"The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment protects the right to own “guns in common use.” That doesn’t cover the semiautomatic weapons regularly used only in mass shootings."

that SBR is already banned...
Deeds Not Words

Mdotweber

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 07:16:35 AM »
I know im preaching to the choir but I like to show people this add from back in the day.
(This is a screenshot of a sears catalogue)"Thats right we used to be able to buy machine guns at dept. stores no background or registration." So what changed? Ive changed quite a few minds with this very add.
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

punaperson

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 08:13:52 AM »
Dayton mayor Nan Whaley:

“This person, the shooter, bought this gun legally and did so much damage in the course of 30 seconds. It really begs the question why anyone needs to have this sort of gun.”

Whaley also said that she spoke to President Trump shortly after the tragic shooting. “We did have a discussion around why this kind of gun even exists in our communities,” Whaley said.

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I can't wait for her detailed explanation of exactly what she wants banned, and if that includes confiscation of (tens of millions of?) existing guns of "that sort/kind". I'm not holding my breath. She's too ignorant to even know what she's talking about. Go ahead, prove me wrong Nan.

EDIT: In case anyone else wants to ask her a question about her plan: nan.whaley@daytonohio.gov
« Last Edit: August 05, 2019, 08:39:13 AM by punaperson »

Rocky

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 10:05:36 AM »
Saw major confusion/dis-information regarding semi vs full auto on page for the Dayton, Ohio shooting and posted the following.
   
   "Let me help them understand the difference.
   The AR in AR-15 Stands for "Armallite Rifle", named after the company that made it (Armalite) not " .assault rifle.
Because a civilian-use AR-15 is semi-automatic only , rather than fully-automatic, it's not an assault rifle.
A semi-automatic weapon fires one bullet per trigger pull, whereas a military assault rifle can fire continuously with one pull of the trigger.
The same is true for the SKS, AK etc...

    Fully-automatic firearms have been heavily regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) since 1934, and the sale of automatic firearms has been effectively banned since 1986.
Possession by Civilian's is essentially prohibited by federal laws.   

   The term "assault weapon" was the brainchild of Josh Sugarmann of Handgun Control Inc (aka the Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence, etc. etc.) because of its confusing nature between actual assault rifles and assault weapons.
He coined it around 1986-1989."

   My post was removed.

ps
 "Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic.
The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons."
Josh Sugarmann
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

punaperson

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 11:45:54 AM »
My post was removed.
Facts are inconvenient things and will not be tolerated by the false narrative spewing socialists promoting total civilian disarmament.

changemyoil66

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 12:57:26 PM »
Where either of the shooters on anti-depressants or other like meds?  Can't find any info yet.

hvybarrels

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2019, 01:02:43 PM »
Or have family with connections to alphabet agencies? Oh wait I typed that out loud...
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

changemyoil66

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2019, 01:10:50 PM »
Or have family with connections to alphabet agencies? Oh wait I typed that out loud...

If srs, El Paso, his dad was a psychologist.  Did some work at an asylum that was shut down a few years ago.  Nuthin to see here.

Heavies

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 03:09:02 PM »
Or have family with connections to alphabet agencies? Oh wait I typed that out loud...
Where either of the shooters on anti-depressants or other like meds?  Can't find any info yet.

Investigating these things will destroy the whole plan and cost billions of dollars, politicians have no interest in that....

punaperson

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2019, 12:47:36 PM »
Biden jumps in... they're starting to finally admit confiscation is the goal... of course using the euphemism "national buyback program"... so I guess the "militia" being armed with single shot .22LR long guns and handguns will be sufficient to not run afoul of the intent of the Second Amendment... according to sleepy/cognitively impaired Joe.

Biden says he's coming for assault weapons, as 2020 Dems urge new ban in wake of shootings

Primary front-runner Joe Biden went so far Monday as to say he's coming for those guns.

The former vice president, in a CNN interview, said that a Biden administration would push for a “national buyback program” to get such firearms “off the street.”

Asked what he’d say to gun owners worried that Biden would be coming for their guns, he quickly answered: "Bingo! You're right, if you have an assault weapon."

"The fact of the matter is [assault weapons] should be illegal. Period," Biden said. "The Second Amendment doesn't say you can't restrict the kinds of weapons people can own. You can't buy a bazooka. You can't have a flame-thrower."

[Then there's Buttigieg:]

Buttigieg – a Naval Reserve veteran who served in the Afghanistan war – emphasized that “weapons like the one I carried in Afghanistan have no place on our streets or in our schools.”

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2019, 01:19:29 PM »
Biden jumps in... they're starting to finally admit confiscation is the goal... of course using the euphemism "national buyback program"... so I guess the "militia" being armed with single shot .22LR long guns and handguns will be sufficient to not run afoul of the intent of the Second Amendment... according to sleepy/cognitively impaired Joe.

Biden says he's coming for assault weapons, as 2020 Dems urge new ban in wake of shootings

Primary front-runner Joe Biden went so far Monday as to say he's coming for those guns.

The former vice president, in a CNN interview, said that a Biden administration would push for a “national buyback program” to get such firearms “off the street.”

Asked what he’d say to gun owners worried that Biden would be coming for their guns, he quickly answered: "Bingo! You're right, if you have an assault weapon."

"The fact of the matter is [assault weapons] should be illegal. Period," Biden said. "The Second Amendment doesn't say you can't restrict the kinds of weapons people can own. You can't buy a bazooka. You can't have a flame-thrower."

[Then there's Buttigieg:]

Buttigieg – a Naval Reserve veteran who served in the Afghanistan war – emphasized that “weapons like the one I carried in Afghanistan have no place on our streets or in our schools.”



Really?  What is he going to do differently than he did as VP?

"Buy a shotgun"




https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/12/19/obama_taps_biden_to_lead_gun_violence_task_force_116471.html

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/07/02/flashback-uncle-joe-lead-obamas-gun-control-task-force-but-apparently-missed-this-memo-on-smart-guns-n2549425


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

RSN172

Re: Editorial: Ban Weapons of War [semi-automatic weapons]
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2019, 10:24:57 PM »
More Americans are in favor of gun ownership in contrast to what main stream media, aka Fake News, is trying to portray.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/gallup-71-americans-say-no-banning-possession-handguns
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