happy "indiginous people's day"! (Read 3629 times)

macsak

happy "indiginous people's day"!
« on: October 14, 2019, 07:54:15 AM »
oh, wait, we cannot celebrate a federal holiday because the national teachers association says the US illegally occupies Hawaii...
never mind
enjoy your day at work

ren

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2019, 08:20:44 AM »
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2019, 11:00:57 AM »
I like Columbus Day. It reminds me of the genocidal foundations of our modern western hemisphere. Naming it something politically correct would be putting lipstick on a pig.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2019, 11:54:12 AM »
I like Columbus Day. It reminds me of the genocidal foundations of our modern western hemisphere. Naming it something politically correct would be putting lipstick on a pig.

As opposed to the genocidal foundations of say

Australia
Egypt
Sudan
All of the Middle East (Muslims against non-Muslims, Shiites against Sunnies and Shia, ...)
All of Africa
All of Asia
...
...

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The genocide of indigenous peoples is the mass destruction of entire communities of indigenous peoples.[Note 1]
Indigenous peoples are understood to be people whose historical and current territory has become occupied by
colonial expansion, or the formation of a state by a dominant group such as a colonial power.[1]

While the concept of genocide was formulated by Raphael Lemkin in the mid-20th century, the expansion of various
European colonial powers such as the Spanish and British empires and the subsequent establishment of colonies on
indigenous territory frequently involved acts of genocidal violence against indigenous groups in the
Americas, Australia, Africa and Asia.[2]

According to Lemkin, colonization was in itself "intrinsically genocidal". He saw this genocide as a two-stage process,
the first being the destruction of the indigenous population's way of life. In the second stage, the newcomers impose
their way of life on the indigenous group.[3][4] According to David Maybury-Lewis, imperial and colonial forms of genocide
are enacted in two main ways, either through the deliberate clearing of territories of their original inhabitants in order to
make them exploitable for purposes of resource extraction or colonial settlements, or through enlisting indigenous peoples
as forced laborers in colonial or imperialist projects of resource extraction.[5] The designation of specific events as genocidal
is often controversial.
[6]

Some scholars, among them Lemkin, have argued that cultural genocide, sometimes called ethnocide, should also be
recognized. A people may continue to exist, but if they are prevented from perpetuating their group identity by prohibitions
against cultural and religious practices that are the basis of that identity, this may also be considered a form of genocide.
Examples include the treatment of Tibetans by the Government of China and Native Americans by the Federal government
of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2019, 01:36:44 PM »
I am Hawaiian Japanese.   Use your public library.

mrgaf

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2019, 07:26:50 PM »
Ug...
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

hvybarrels

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2019, 08:58:18 PM »
There should be a Genghis Kahn day in Asian countries. His genetics are literally everywhere.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2019, 11:13:34 PM »
There should be a Genghis Kahn day in Asian countries. His genetics are literally everywhere.

Khan was all about genetics ...





The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2019, 09:12:29 AM »
Russia should also have an Ivan the Terrible day since he played such an instrumental part in consolidating of that extremely large nation. At least we still have Kamehameha day here.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

changemyoil66

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2019, 09:45:25 AM »
Not to highjack the thread, but I always wondered what life would have been like if Japan did invade and control HI.  My great grandparents came here, IDK the reason why.  So maybe those who left Japan, might be looked down upon?  Or more importantly, we did have family who joined the 442 and was a pineapple warrior (HI national guard).  So maybe Japan would have treated our family as traitors against the empire.

But I guess it does kind of relate to the thread because had Columbus not came to the mainland, eventually someone else would have.  And would HI be under their control?

drck1000

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2019, 09:48:40 AM »
Not to highjack the thread, but I always wondered what life would have been like if Japan did invade and control HI.  My great grandparents came here, IDK the reason why.  So maybe those who left Japan, might be looked down upon?  Or more importantly, we did have family who joined the 442 and was a pineapple warrior (HI national guard).  So maybe Japan would have treated our family as traitors against the empire.

But I guess it does kind of relate to the thread because had Columbus not came to the mainland, eventually someone else would have.  And would HI be under their control?
Would be good discussion. My family has two different perspectives of those that immigrated to HI.

And yeah, Man In The High Castle.

changemyoil66

Re: happy "indiginous people's day"!
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2019, 10:03:33 AM »
Would be good discussion. My family has two different perspectives of those that immigrated to HI.

And yeah, Man In The High Castle.

Season 4 whoop whoop.  Kind of disappointed though in the direction they're going.  More scifi.

But more important, COD coming out 10/25.