Time for the US to Leave Iraq (Read 12140 times)

drck1000

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2020, 07:54:56 PM »
Wait, which is it? You keep saying I’m old but now you saying I’m not that old?   ;D
Depends on context and what serves my agenda.

Dammit! Maybe I am a RINO. And here I thought my political leaning was NOTA (Brewter’s Millions).  :rofl:

Inspector

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2020, 07:57:01 PM »
Depends on context and what serves my agenda.

Dammit! Maybe I am a RINO. And here I thought my political leaning was NOTA (Brewter’s Millions).  :rofl:
So does that mean I can bold my text to serve my agenda?
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2020, 07:59:32 PM »
No doubt about that.  The Sunnis and Shiites will never get along and would continue their religious wars against one another with probable pot shots at Israel during their brief cease fires.

At least young American men and women will not be needlessly lost with much needed American dollars finally diverted to domestic needs.
On one hand I’ve thought many times that the US sticks it’s nose where it doesn’t belong. That said, I believe an isolationist stance is naive and sort of Pollyanna view of the world. JMO

Inspector

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2020, 08:38:43 PM »
On one hand I’ve thought many times that the US sticks it’s nose where it doesn’t belong. That said, I believe an isolationist stance is naive and sort of Pollyanna view of the world. JMO
We will never solve the world’s problems discussing it here. This issue is way too complicated to the extent that taking simplistic sides, one side or the other will also not solve this issue. I think the solution lies somewhere in the middle. Have we stuck our noses too far into the Middle East affairs. In some respects, yes I believe so. If we had left well enough alone, I believe that Israel would have lost the war in 1973 and would not exist today. There is so much hatred towards the US for helping Israel that we pretty much cemented that hate forever for helping Israel win that war. The Arabs hated Israel long before that. And the US interference in other country’s affairs (with few exceptions) were still not too egregious up to that point.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2020, 08:45:23 PM »
We will never solve the world’s problems discussing it here. This issue is way too complicated to the extent that taking simplistic sides, one side or the other will also not solve this issue. I think the solution lies somewhere in the middle. Have we stuck our noses too far into the Middle East affairs. In some respects, yes I believe so. If we had left well enough alone, I believe that Israel would have lost the war in 1973 and would not exist today. There is so much hatred towards the US for helping Israel that we pretty much cemented that hate forever for helping Israel win that war. The Arabs hated Israel long before that. And the US interference in other country’s affairs (with few exceptions) were still not too egregious up to that point.
Agree, but I like arguing with ya. 😝

Just kidding

When I worked in Seattle, there was a guy from Syria. We had some interesting conversations at break times, along with some pretty bigot other coworkers. The Arab and Persian crap goes back like 5000 years+. At one time I tried to read up on why Arabs and Persians don’t get along. Just when I thought the history of WWII was complex.  ::)

Kuleana

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2020, 09:05:50 PM »
We will never solve the world’s problems discussing it here. This issue is way too complicated to the extent that taking simplistic sides, one side or the other will also not solve this issue. I think the solution lies somewhere in the middle. Have we stuck our noses too far into the Middle East affairs. In some respects, yes I believe so. If we had left well enough alone, I believe that Israel would have lost the war in 1973 and would not exist today. There is so much hatred towards the US for helping Israel that we pretty much cemented that hate forever for helping Israel win that war. The Arabs hated Israel long before that. And the US interference in other country’s affairs (with few exceptions) were still not too egregious up to that point.

Very Prophetic.   :shaka:

BTW, I don't mind if you bold your responses because my eyes are bad.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2020, 11:04:05 PM »

This so wrong, that any Iranian reading this would die laughing.

Any proof?  Or just a personal opinion wrapped in a sarcastic and dismissive insult?

If America truly supported democratic government above its own selfish strategic interests in the Middle East, it would have not overthrew the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh back in 1953.

Because the same people in charge of the US government today are the same ones in charge and making all those policy decisions in 1953?  Therefore, nothing ever changes, because "USA is imperialistic?"


Moreover, both Iran and Syria for that matter today are not totally totalitarian states.  They both hold elections for the Presidency and parliament of their respective countries.

A state does not need to be totalitarian to be non-democratic, though it helps.   :rofl:

A theocratic regime that engages in global terrorism through proxy militias and executes its dissidents, yet holds elections for the "president" as a bureaucratic figurehead is not democratic.

The USSR held elections for their President.  The Cubans held elections for their President.  Elections do not a democracy make.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Time for the US to Leave Iraq
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2020, 05:25:37 AM »
Very Prophetic.   :shaka:

BTW, I don't mind if you bold your responses because my eyes are bad.
The bolding for me doesn’t really help. I have had bad eyes since I was 7. So I make sure my glasses, contacts, etc. prescriptions are up to date. At the same time it is considered bad manners to do it cuz you are yelling. I am actually quite surprised that your doing that was tolerated as it was. I am on numerous forums that would have actually kicked you off for your constant bolding. So it apparently quite egregious in some circles.

I bolded a couple of my posts as a way of chiding Ren.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!