It sounds boring, like getting stuck at Disneyland forever

I was stuck one time on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. That song gets burned into your head after 3 1/2 hours. I also got stuck in the Haunted Mansion as well. But that was only 15-20 minutes so not too bad.

I was stuck one time on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. That song gets burned into your head after 3 1/2 hours. I also got stuck in the Haunted Mansion as well. But that was only 15-20 minutes so not too bad.

Pretty sure 3.5 hours stuck in a Disney ride without shutting off the music counts as torture and a good lawyer could get you some money for the PTSD

I understand i have the same anxiety,  hence wish to be immortal.  But I do think i can be decently moral without the fear of getting punished in the end. 
Imagine how weird a system would be if the first 100ish years if your life determines the next 1000000+ years

Thats assuming in an afterlife there is passage of time though.

But what I was saying about being moral is that if there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing supernatural at all then morals cease to exist on any level. No right or wrong, only things we like or dislike. So murder, steal, rape all you can get away with, whatever benefits you.

Thats assuming in an afterlife there is passage of time though.

But what I was saying about being moral is that if there is no afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing supernatural at all then morals cease to exist on any level. No right or wrong, only things we like or dislike. So murder, steal, rape all you can get away with, whatever benefits you.

If you don't look at it negatively like that you can make a conclusion that a life of murder and rape is not a good life,  either you end up dead or in jail.  If you have one shot at life.  Do you want it to end early or be in a metal box?  Moral people tend to live good fulfilling lives.  If you only have one life live it to the best you can. 

If there's no time in the afterlife, our human minds will not be able to comprehend that.   If there's no passage of time you can't enjoy the afterlife or suffer from it.

If you don't look at it negatively like that you can make a conclusion that a life of murder and rape is not a good life,  either you end up dead or in jail.  If you have one shot at life.  Do you want it to end early or be in a metal box?  Moral people tend to live good fulfilling lives.  If you only have one life live it to the best you can. 

If there's no time in the afterlife, our human minds will not be able to comprehend that.   If there's no passage of time you can't enjoy the afterlife or suffer from it.

Problem is that you revert to a moral term to justify a moral term. Moral people live good lives, it's circular.

Without some sort of supernatural being/nature all those terms become absolutely subjective. Moral/immoral, good/bad, right/wrong, evil/good, etc. Only thing that remains is desire-able or undesirable. Stealing may be desire-able but prison is more undesirable. But if I can get away with it then it's back to desire-able.

Problem is that you revert to a moral term to justify a moral term. Moral people live good lives, it's circular.

Without some sort of supernatural being/nature all those terms become absolutely subjective. Moral/immoral, good/bad, right/wrong, evil/good, etc. Only thing that remains is desire-able or undesirable. Stealing may be desire-able but prison is more undesirable. But if I can get away with it then it's back to desire-able.

You don't need to be judged to enjoy/fear life.  Just live life how you want to live life.  With the knowledge that if you live a "moral" life it tends to be a better life than if not.  If you steal, you may get away with it a few times but it will eventually come back to get you.  Some people call this karma.  There's no guarantee but if you only have one shot at life you should take one with the best odds of success and happiness.  In your words you want a desireable life, long term.  You can't keep getting away with doing bad things it almost always catches up, its changes your lifestyle, habits, etc. 

You don't need to be judged to enjoy/fear life.  Just live life how you want to live life.  With the knowledge that if you live a "moral" life it tends to be a better life than if not.  If you steal, you may get away with it a few times but it will eventually come back to get you.  Some people call this karma.  There's no guarantee but if you only have one shot at life you should take one with the best odds of success and happiness.  In your words you want a desireable life, long term.  You can't keep getting away with doing bad things it almost always catches up, its changes your lifestyle, habits, etc.

STOP IT.  NOW.

This is not your thread.  How many threads have you hijacked?  All of them?

If you need an example of how you are being a tool, this is a great one.