Everybody,

We won a case for right now! There is no more in person registration required starting NOW!  The state of Hawaii did not get there stay so the "no in person registration" begins immediately.

You will still need to register you firearms but you no longer need to do it in person or show the gun.  The State will of course appeal it to the 9th Circuit court but until the 9th Circuit court puts a stay or adjudicate, you don't need to go in person from now until a process is created to register you firearms.

One less step to waste your time going down town.

I might need to buy a gun just because....

Reference:  Hawaii Firearms Coalition Facebook.  Yesterday, 9:24PM.

we should be able to renew our long gun permits remotely too.  they already got my picture and fingerprints.

You will still need to register you firearms but you no longer need to do it in person or show the gun.  The State will of course appeal it to the 9th Circuit court but until the 9th Circuit court puts a stay or adjudicate, you don't need to go in person from now until a process is created to register you firearms.

So, everybody stop going to the registration office and let me be number one on the line when I register next week. Wonder what the grouchy guy behind the window is going to do without having civilians to insult.

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/08/16/two-hawaii-gun-regulations-struck-down/

(As to the 5-day inspection period requirement), the Government (again) wholly fails to demonstrate how the in-person inspection and registration requirement furthers these interests. It merely states that "ensuring that the registration information is accurate, ensuring that the firearm complies with Hawaii law, and confirming the identity of the firearm can be easily accomplished simply by bringing the firearm to the registration for inspection."
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Second, as the D.C. Circuit pointed out in Heller v. District of Columbia (D.C. Cir. 2015), requiring individuals to bring firearms into the police station for in-person inspection and registration may "more likely be a threat to public safety [because] there is a risk that the gun may be stolen en route or that the would-be registrant may be arrested or even shot by a police officer seeing a 'man with a gun.'" While these possibilities—like the Government's hypothetical about mistaken transcription—are no more than conjecture, they demonstrate that it is not a simple matter of common sense that in-person inspection and registration promotes public safety.
 

Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

Since this was ruled just last night. A couple gunshops I called said they have absolutely nothing set up to this new ruling.

I think they need to call HPD and set something up. To do in store registration. Easy for long guns.

From what I recall you still need to do pta for pistols and long gun permits in person (at HPD) station. For pictures and fingerprints and rapback (if first time.) I may be wrong but I was told that.

But kudos for the guys who fought for this. I'm sure everyone on here and themsome is grateful!!! I sure am.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

Since this was ruled just last night. A couple gunshops I called said they have absolutely nothing set up to this new ruling.

I think they need to call HPD and set something up. To do in store registration. Easy for long guns.

From what I recall you still need to do pta for pistols and long gun permits in person (at HPD) station. For pictures and fingerprints and rapback (if first time.) I may be wrong but I was told that.

But kudos for the guys who fought for this. I'm sure everyone on here and themsome is grateful!!! I sure am.

HIFICO is working with the various counties.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet.

Since this was ruled just last night. A couple gunshops I called said they have absolutely nothing set up to this new ruling.

I think they need to call HPD and set something up. To do in store registration. Easy for long guns.

From what I recall you still need to do pta for pistols and long gun permits in person (at HPD) station. For pictures and fingerprints and rapback (if first time.) I may be wrong but I was told that.

But kudos for the guys who fought for this. I'm sure everyone on here and themsome is grateful!!! I sure am.

I am not sure why a LGS/FFL would need to set something up.  The ruling that was denied a stay, deals with a gun owner having to go down town to register their firearms.  However, you may be right, that the new process may require LGS and FFL to send something to HPD but still should not concern the customer.  i.e. once the customer comes in with the PTA, the LGS/FFL gives him the gun, the customer leaves with gun.  LGS/FFL will do the paper to send in to HPD.  Failure to submit is the fault of the LGS/FFL.  I feel for the LGS/FFL but they will most likely pass the buck on the time spent to turn in registration, to the customer.

Follow NICS process at LGS.  Go home, relax and enjoy fondling your new firearm. . . 

At least hopefully. . .

Yea, I can see a lgs charging us. Tbh id pay 10-15 bucks for them to do it. Im sure it's gonna be done by fax. But if you factor in gas, time, meter parking (unless your lucky and get a spot that already has time left on it) and standing there waiting .. If I were to do it. Then less than 1 hours pay of my paycheck is well worth it.

The biggest factor.. Is.... Are you even gonna be able to register it that day?? Covid rules and all...

Looking to the day when gun registration period,
is ruled as it should be, un-Constitutional.
then we can party!
 

Not the LGS responsibility to register a firearm for anyone. The onus is on the firearm owner. The LGS just notified HPD of the transfer which is still required.

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LGS faxes the info to hpd anyways. So no further steps should be done by them. It sould be on us to fax, mail, email the reg form. Takes 2 mins to fill out.

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Not the LGS responsibility to register a firearm for anyone. The onus is on the firearm owner. The LGS just notified HPD of the transfer which is still required.

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Unless HPD changes the policy to make it the LGS responsible.  The judge said that the owner of the gun doesn’t need to go down town to register.  Nothing about LGS.  Remember the point of the current government climate is to make it inconvenient to own guns.  Even if it means running the LGS or manufacturers out of business.  Whatever the process, HPD will make it hell to follow, forcing another costly and long lawsuit.


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Unless HPD changes the policy to make it the LGS responsible.  The judge said that the owner of the gun doesn’t need to go down town to register.  Nothing about LGS.  Remember the point of the current government climate is to make it inconvenient to own guns.  Even if it means running the LGS or manufacturers out of business.  Whatever the process, HPD will make it hell to follow, forcing another costly and long lawsuit.


When I spoke to my friend, who owns a LGS, he said it will most likely be their responsibility to send the registration into HPD. I dont mind filling out the form and mailing it in. But maybe shops are more responsible than the buyer?? Maybe it'll be like closing out the cc machine for stores at the end of the day. All lgs fax all registered firearms at the end of the day.

This convo. Happened a couple weeks ago when I was last there. So maybe it'll change?