NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG (Read 6062 times)

aletheuo137

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2021, 10:52:50 AM »
I would call them proud Americans who fought and sacrificed for us. Take some ownership of your country. That I consider more patriotic than what is being taught in college. Blood and sacrifice!
I'll say it, yes I have a problem with an officer stepping on OUR flag.
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Heavies

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2021, 10:52:59 AM »
Interacting with angry old men is just pointless.

I’d hardly call that “interacting”

Flapp_Jackson

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2021, 03:29:32 PM »
Interacting with angry old men is just pointless.

And yet, here you are.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2021, 07:50:20 PM »
There are  many fake patriots that don't believe in American democracy and like to wave the flag but don't believe in what it stands for. These are people that claim they believe in freedom while they try to take freedom from others.

Such people certainly exist, I think that is undeniable. Patriotism becomes an identity label and the actual ideals of freedom can end up meaning less than the identity of the group claiming the patriot label. The don't like when the flag is disrespected because it is an attack on their tribe so protecting the label becomes important while they might give up freedom for others or wipe their face with american flag napkins. These people exist but it is a huge leap to go from someone being upset that a cop stepped on a flag to calling them all fake patriots.

Where are you even going to with argument? Are you saying a member of this forum behaves in such a way? Are you saying the person who made the video acts in such a way? Who are the fake patriots? If you don't care about someone stepping on a flag thats fine to say but going on to declare that real patriots don't care about the flag being stepped on is rather insulting.

Many Christians may be angered if someone burned a bible whereas I don't care because god doesn't live in the book, it doesn't hurt god, but that doesn't make them fake christians.

aletheuo137

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2021, 09:11:57 AM »
Your logic is faulty. Everything serves a purpose, I would never hang a Ford truck with a flag from a pole.
I have coasters with our wedding pictures on it our daughter gifted to us. Am I insulted people puts drinks on them? Are you an American citizen or not? What purpose does our flag serves? Think about it!

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QUIETShooter

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2021, 10:19:45 AM »
Even if those of us who served and sacrificed for our country and will defend your right to do and say these things about our flag, my question: what is so wrong about honoring the symbolism of what our flag signifies?

I'll bet you never served in the military and never felt the pride of serving our country.

If so, that's ok.  But when differing upon opinions as to what a real patriot is, tread carefully.

And respectfully.

Because a lot of us don't take kindly to those who talk the talk and don't walk the walk.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: NYPD Police STOMP on AMERICAN FLAG
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2021, 12:24:10 PM »
For me personally I don't really subscribe to symbolism so I don't usually get offended or angered if someone damaged a symbol of something I hold dear. A flag, a uniform, a family crest, etc. I don't really care. If it is my own personal property then thats another story but thats not the symbolism at work. Basically I think adherence to symbolism has zero bearingon whether someone is a patriot or not.

Nonetheless I understand that others subscribe to symbolism and feel strongly about it. I think most beer tastes nasty and don't know why anyone would touch it but people value different things in their life. Some people love music where I wouldn't care if music ceased to exist.