Kokohead's hours slashed again! (Read 20554 times)

Heavies

Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2010, 11:03:25 AM »
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So far, No One has Complained about the shorter hours at KokoHead.
 
He "suggested" that we flood the Complaints office with E mails that Require an answer.
 
Send to:  complaints@honolulu.gov

Done!  Thanks for the tip Oldguy!

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Who's going to the range in the near future? Whoever is should print out   a flyer and post it at every bulletin board at Kokohead asking them to   make their complaint to the Mayor's office....I'm not sure the majority   of users have found this site yet, so it might be a good way to get more   folks to send in an e-mail or letter.

Hicarry, great idea.
I go to the range almost every weekend, but this month I have been required to work 12hr shifts 7 days a week. I don't know when I'll get to the range next, but if someone doesn't post up a flyer I will be happy to do so.  Let me know.

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2010, 02:29:18 PM »
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Who's going to the range in the near future? Whoever is should print out   a flyer and post it at every bulletin board at Kokohead asking them to   make their complaint to the Mayor's office....I'm not sure the majority   of users have found this site yet, so it might be a good way to get more   folks to send in an e-mail or letter.

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Hicarry, great idea.
I go to the range almost every weekend, but this month I have been required to work 12hr shifts 7 days a week. I don't know when I'll get to the range next, but if someone doesn't post up a flyer I will be happy to do so.  Let me know.
I won't be able to get to the range at all this week or next, so if someone else can post the flyer or let Heavies know if something hasn't been posted by the time he next visits the range, that would be great.

See you at the gun show......

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 12:32:38 AM »
Hi Folks,
 
Just had another thought(yeah I know, the Wife says I think too much.....)
 
Just wondering what the stats are for the range.
 
How many people use it on weekdays vs weekends.  And when?  What times?
 
How long each person stays?  How long is the waiting time for a bench?  On a week day vs week end?
 
What are the maintenance Costs?  How much repairs are done?
 
Since the range has lots of down time, Why not do repairs and upgrades?
 
If you're going to Complain, Why Not Ask for better facilities at the same time? 
 
Since the Gun Show is this weekend,  Maybe someone should start a petition or something to take to the new Mayor
     about cut backs even Before he's officially in his office.  Does he know?  Does he Approve?
 
Wonder what he'll handle a small crisis even before he officially takes office.
 
I'd be wondering Where or Who originated this cutback even Before the new Mayor is in Office.  Did it originate at
 the Director level or else where?
 
I find the timing of the announcement to be kinda strange,  does anyone else?  Especially since it's at Election time.
 
The Wife wants more shade trees, Women's room on the shotgun area and maybe even a small air conditioned cafe.
 

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2010, 06:58:09 PM »
So it's been almost a week since my complaint email was sent in. NO response yet.. hmm... Anywho, I made some "Defend Koko Head" shirts on spreadshirt.
http://31602.spreadshirt.com/
There is no markup so i'm not making any money on these at all.

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2010, 01:44:10 AM »
Finally got a response back from the City's Director of Parks.

Anyone else get anything back yet?

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2010, 09:00:34 AM »
I got the exact same form letter. It looks like everyone is getting it.
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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 10:09:23 AM »
Yep, same thing too!  >:(
Guess it is SOP to come up with a standard response and send it out to all complainants.
Most times this is true.  There are only a few that will give a thoughtful and detailed response to your concerns.

I also sent letters to my Sen., Rep., and the Governor.  See what kind of response I get.

Try using this tool from the NRA.  It is very helpful.
http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/

Search for your address, it finds all your legislators, then it has an email tool that helps you write your letter, and then sends it out.

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2010, 08:37:47 PM »
a little off topic but....

anyone know why the far right side of the rifle range is chained off and closed?  Is there some kind of rule about how "X" number of staff have to be there to utilize "X" many stations?  It just seems like the rifle range is VERY crowded nowdays @ 12pm on weekdays and there are benches not being used.  Today, there was a waiting list.

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2010, 08:53:15 AM »
anyone know why the far right side of the rifle range is chained off and closed?  Is there some kind of rule about how "X" number of staff have to be there to utilize "X" many stations?  It just seems like the rifle range is VERY crowded nowdays @ 12pm on weekdays and there are benches not being used.  Today, there was a waiting list.

They do that on weekdays.  I don't know if it's because of reduced available staff to watch the line, or because those spaces are reserved for HPD.  I mention HPD because I've been shooting out there on weekdays and seen HPD in the chained-off area.  That was the day I embarrassed the poor SWAT sniper.
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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2010, 10:36:14 AM »
oh OK, I saw someone training inside the sillhouette range yesterday. 
 
It was all good though, most people cleared out of the range by 2pm...  everyone waiting got a bench.

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2010, 11:47:21 PM »
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Heavies

Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2010, 01:10:02 AM »
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Heavies - Should we still continue to send complaints if the state is just going to send a "canned" letter?  Please let me know.  I am not the political type, but I am always willing to help in any way.

Yep, even though they send out the same response to everyone, the point is they know people are taking notice, and are concerned.  I had also sent letters to my local Senator, Rep and Governor's office, just to get the word out.  I feel this issue will also help us on the issue of CCW and other 2A rights. :thumbsup:

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2010, 01:25:03 AM »
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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2010, 01:11:30 AM »
The KK range is Not a State facility
 
It is a City & County Department of Parks & Recreation facility.
 
Sooo, besides complaining to the Mayor's Office, a complaint to your council person wouldn't hurt either.
   Get them involved, tell them the Mayor's Office is sending out meaningless form letters that are blowing you off.
 
Ask the Council Person to get a Detailed breakdown on use of the range.  Have them make use of the Sign In books.
 
Main City site:  http://honolulu.gov/agencies.htm
 
City Council members:  http://honolulu.gov/council/ccl.htm
 
ASK Pointed Questions.  Politely Demand specific answers.  Give the range guys meaningful work.......
 
Ask them why the range is not open at night when Other Parks facilities are. 
 
Ask them to have Transportation "donate" 2nd hand street lights that can't be used on roadways.
Have Facilities Maintenance install timers like at tennis courts.
 
Demand More, Why be satisfied with going back to the status quo?
 
The vaious shooting clubs/organiztions should get a "Dream List" together and hit the City for it.
 
Get a Tsunami of firearms people "squeeking the wheels"
 
Got nothing to loose, Everything to gain.
 
More reasons to Join NRA/HRA, organizations can add fuel to the fire.
 
But first, a fire has to be started......

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Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2010, 01:39:15 AM »
OG - all ready an NRA member and my spam box is always full thanks to them. lol  I'll sign up for the HRA at the next Fun Shoot!



Heavies

Re: Kokohead's hours slashed again!
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2010, 06:13:11 PM »
I have had some good resposes from my Sen and Rep so far, and even the Gov's office has taken note.

At first the Gov's office sent me a response of 'it's the city's responsablility, but I just replied back that "I wanted the Gov and Gov elected to know about the problem and what the city was doing.  They favoably replied that they would make sure everyone was informed of the situation.

Similar responses from my Sen. and Rep.

Might just be election year smoke being blown, but I figure 'Just keep at it" to keep it freash in thier minds.  If they get enough 'concerned voters' emailing, then they will give the matter more serious thought.