I will get my Dillon Press tomorrow, YES finally. Actually it was pretty fast once I ordered it, pulling the 'trigger' with the $$ was the hard part.

 I want to begin loading 9mm and then later .223, is bullet lubing important with either of the those bullets (when lead cast)? I have read about LLA and other home recipes on the inter-web but many of the guys with video on youtube do not even talk about lubing especially for 9mm. Any help for a noobie loader would be greatly appreciated.

I would say yes. It will prevent excess leading and a lot of cleaning time. Especially with higher velocity projectiles. Check out hi tek coating it's a dry lube and works very well been shooting 45acp with this coating and clean up is a breeze no leading in my barrel the coating is supposed to work with Vel. up to around 3200fps with out having to use gas checks.

Bullet lube is only used if you are casting your own lead bullets. Generally, I would not recommend using lead bullets in either 9mm or 223.

I will get my Dillon Press tomorrow, YES finally. Actually it was pretty fast once I ordered it, pulling the 'trigger' with the $$ was the hard part.

 I want to begin loading 9mm and then later .223, is bullet lubing important with either of the those bullets (when lead cast)? I have read about LLA and other home recipes on the inter-web but many of the guys with video on youtube do not even talk about lubing especially for 9mm. Any help for a noobie loader would be greatly appreciated.

First, I would not recommend you even attempting to load .223 with lead. You need gas checks as well as a very hard alloy. Plus you should not push them past about 2,200fps. Which may not be the sweet spot as far accuracy goes for your rifle. Plus it may not be enough pressure to run an AR. If this is for a bolt gun then you could load them accordingly. The thing is that with the price of .224 bullets in the ~$15-$16 range per 100 I don't see all that work being worth the money you will save. Now, I don't know if this is true but I read somewhere that if you have a fast twist barrel like 1 in 7" or 1 in 8" that a lead bullet may not stabilize properly. And that a 1 in 12" twist may work better.

I have had mixed luck with 9mm lead bullets. Some 9mm lead bullets have worked okay for me and some have not. I found loading with a little slower burning powder worked better in my guns. And I bought pre lubed bullets. It is just one more step I didn't want to have to go through for reloading. With 9mm FMJ bullets in the ~$14-$16 range for 100 I don't think the price difference is enough to make using lead that much cheaper for the amount that I shoot pistol any more. If you shoot a lot it may be worth the extra steps for you as far as cost.

Let us know what your results are.

Bullet lube is only used if you are casting your own lead bullets. Generally, I would not recommend using lead bullets in either 9mm or 223.

Hey there oldfart. Just to learn and understand more why would you not recommend lead cast bullets in 9mm? I understand the 223 issue. I will be shooting a G17 with a LW or Storm Lake aftermarket barrel just for more information.

Many thanks!

Hey there oldfart. Just to learn and understand more why would you not recommend lead cast bullets in 9mm? I understand the 223 issue. I will be shooting a G17 with a LW or Storm Lake aftermarket barrel just for more information.

Many thanks!

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We discussed this previously:
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=9331.msg94525#msg94525

Even if you install an aftermarket bbl with conventional rifling you will still need to experiment a bit to get good results.
As Mr Inspector stated in the previous message, he had mixed results. I also had mixed results.
Let me relate this timely anecdote:
Just last week I attended a shooting match and I was shooting next to my friend who was shooting a 9mm with cast lead bullets.  Since he was next to me, we exchange score sheets, I score his target and vice versa.
His target exhibited oblong holes in the shape of the profile of his bullets. His lead bullets were tumbling through the air instead of spiraling like a football.
The usual cause of this is mismatch between the diameter of the bullet and the bore diameter.
In the case of lead bullets in 9mm, my observation has been that this is a fairly common problem. Therefore my recommendation is that you avoid the whole issue altogether.

BTW shoot regular factory FMJ ball through your aftermarket glock bbl before you do anything else. In that way, if you have a problem with the gun or bbl then you can eliminate the ammunition as the source of the trouble. It will also help smooth out any microscopic rough spots in the bbl.

You are also new to the reloading hobby. In fact you did not even get your press yet, right?
There are few things more frustrating than starting a new hobby and getting dismal results. That is why I suggest conventional jacketed bullets with common recommended recipes to start you off. Believe me, you will have enough problems to solve just getting started in the hobby.

When or if you order lead bullets, try a few hundred first to make sure they can work with your bbl.
But definitely start out with regular jacketed heads in the 9mm. It's all about having a successful and happy first experience in reloading.

When you get more friendly with the reloading process and have success with regular jacketed heads, then by all means try some lead bullets.

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We discussed this previously:
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=9331.msg94525#msg94525

Even if you install an aftermarket bbl with conventional rifling you will still need to experiment a bit to get good results.
As Mr Inspector stated in the previous message, he had mixed results. I also had mixed results.
Let me relate this timely anecdote:
Just last week I attended a shooting match and I was shooting next to my friend who was shooting a 9mm with cast lead bullets.  Since he was next to me, we exchange score sheets, I score his target and vice versa.
His target exhibited oblong holes in the shape of the profile of his bullets. His lead bullets were tumbling through the air instead of spiraling like a football.
The usual cause of this is mismatch between the diameter of the bullet and the bore diameter.
In the case of lead bullets in 9mm, my observation has been that this is a fairly common problem. Therefore my recommendation is that you avoid the whole issue altogether.

BTW shoot regular factory FMJ ball through your aftermarket glock bbl before you do anything else. In that way, if you have a problem with the gun or bbl then you can eliminate the ammunition as the source of the trouble. It will also help smooth out any microscopic rough spots in the bbl.

You are also new to the reloading hobby. In fact you did not even get your press yet, right?
There are few things more frustrating than starting a new hobby and getting dismal results. That is why I suggest conventional jacketed bullets with common recommended recipes to start you off. Believe me, you will have enough problems to solve just getting started in the hobby.

When or if you order lead bullets, try a few hundred first to make sure they can work with your bbl.
But definitely start out with regular jacketed heads in the 9mm. It's all about having a successful and happy first experience in reloading.

When you get more friendly with the reloading process and have success with regular jacketed heads, then by all means try some lead bullets.

Gotcha! Very clear and understood. I will give it time to get the reloading thing down first.

Thanks

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