So it begins (on Oahu) (Read 4771 times)

groveler

Re: So it begins (on Oahu)
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2022, 12:59:14 PM »
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022/10/05/hawaii-county-council-members-object-to-sweeping-sensitive-places-proposal-n62974?fbclid=IwAR3-NrnZE9dm-BmcZ_d9kBfEtnHccKOglsILmBJBkc8Hsb-eLPaJwMakidw

Big Island rejected the ordinance bill as is.  Wow.
I didn't even know this was on the Agenda!
My council critter is an ANTI- GUN NUT so
talking to her is useless.
I'm still trying to kill the obnoxious rules the police chief dreamed up
to get a CCW. They have no basis in law so still fit the unconstitutional
"tests" you have to pass to exercise your constitutional rights.
Do not comply.
Lawyer on speed dial.
Old men don't care about life sentences.
Fuck THEM!
 :shaka:

changemyoil66

Re: So it begins (on Oahu)
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2022, 01:07:09 PM »
I didn't even know this was on the Agenda!
My council critter is an ANTI- GUN NUT so
talking to her is useless.

Do not comply.
Lawyer on speed dial.
Old men don't care about life sentences.
Fuck THEM!
 :shaka:

We still need your help by submitting testimony.  Every testimony counts as 1 more for us. Like with the missing testimonies for the HPD CCW rules, we are outnumbered 100 to 77.

eyeeatingfish

Re: So it begins (on Oahu)
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2022, 11:01:58 PM »
If the government paid the landlord directly out of some fund that's for the landlord's use alone, that would be similar to the JROTC situation.

But, it the money is paid on behalf of and for the benefit of a specific tenant, That's not money being paid TO the landlord,  It's paid TO the tenant for their housing.  That the money then goes to the landlord is incidental to process -- it still was paid to the benefit of the tenant.  The tenant could be living in any number of subsidized apartment houses, but they chose this one.  The funding follows the tenant.

In the case of JROTC, the money remains with the school -- and if the money remained with the landlord should the tenant leave, then it would be the same situation.

Military members are given a housing allowance to live off base.  Are you saying the landlords that collect  the military members' rent are now "government tied" and under additional federal restrictions (like gun policies) which all other landlords are not?

I don't know exactly how payment for Section 8 housing or other types of public housing works, I was just looking at a possible angle that a legal case could be made if this passed.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: So it begins (on Oahu)
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2022, 11:16:28 PM »
I don't know exactly how payment for Section 8 housing or other types of public housing works, I was just looking at a possible angle that a legal case could be made if this passed.

People bring bogus legal cases from every angle all the time.  If you can imagine it, someone has filed a lawsuit over it.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: So it begins (on Oahu)
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2022, 08:55:38 AM »
Update

City Counsel meeting on Nov 2nd, no sensitive places bill on the agenda. Next meeting is in December.