Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania (Read 5780 times)

changemyoil66

Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« on: January 08, 2024, 08:16:43 AM »
Some info on the hearing.

Parking:

Under the HPD building, but limited.  Beware that it is metered, so you will have to watch your time.

Street parking in front of HPD, very limited.  I wouldn't even count on it. This too is metered.

Fasi municipal lot across the street, metered.

Restrooms:

Inside HPD building and you MUST GO THRU METAL DETECTOR.  So be aware of this.

Food:

There is a snack shop that has very limited food items.  They also have snacks like chips and drinks. 

Across the street is Bo's Kitchen (Chinese food).  Their wonton and rice noodle combo is very good.

Random:

This is a C&C building, so it's subject to the sensitive place law, so no legal CCW is allowed.  Even though this is a "places to keep".  The 2 laws conflict with each other.

See above metal detector for restrooms.

Being nice goes a long way.  Because there will be anti 2a people there and last hearing, the lady who's daughter committed suicide was yelling to ban 10rd mags.  Guess her daughter shot herself with 11+rds?  She never tells the lawmakers this, but just that her daughter died from gun violence or something like.

This is about the chiefs rules only and not trying to change state law.  So try to keep on topic as it may affect your credibility if you go off on trying to change state law.  The rules reference when it's in the rules due to state law.


Unsure items:

Last hearing, they had a line outside and let in about 10 testifiers at a time. 

Last hearing they had a TV set up outside so you can watch what was going on inside. Later on YouTube.

Last hearing Chief Logan was outside to mingle prior to the hearing.  Not sure how long he stayed.  He did approach me and say my name to shake my hand.  This was odd, as I don't know him or am not the face of HIFICO like Andrew.

The testifying was faster than waiting in line for the permit to acquire (5hrs).  But some chose to stay to mingle.

Rocky

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2024, 09:58:32 AM »
Straub also has parking.  :thumbsup:

Top of my list  . .    :grrr:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=52277.msg470985#msg470985

Women do not have to pay $150  to exercise their right to vote as per the 15th amendment !
P.O.C. do not have to pay $150 to remain exempt from involuntary servitude as per the 13th amendment !

Don't know what "HE" is
« Last Edit: January 08, 2024, 10:11:34 AM by Rocky »
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2024, 10:08:31 AM »
Straub also has parking

Or just use TheRail.

Oh, no.  Wait ....

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Sodie

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2024, 02:43:33 PM »
Don't know what "HE" is

Hunter Education, I think.

macsak

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2024, 05:02:34 PM »
cmo likes to make up his own abbreviations...

oldfart

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2024, 08:12:54 PM »
cmo likes to make up his own abbreviations...
...
 :rofl:
I noticed that.
What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2024, 08:20:22 AM »
cmo likes to make up his own abbreviations...

We all have our own vices. Some have Tourette's, some claim imperialism, me abbreviations. 

TYVM (Lex Brodie would say)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2024, 08:27:11 AM »
We all have our own vices. Some have Tourette's, some claim imperialism, me abbreviations. 

TYVM (Lex Brodie would say)

Some find humor in strange places.

Ever wonder why the word "abbreviation" is so long?

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2024, 08:54:51 AM »
Some find humor in strange places.

Ever wonder why the word "abbreviation" is so long?

 :geekdanc:
Hyphenated  vs  Non-hyphenated   :crazy:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2024, 08:55:04 AM »

macsak

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2024, 11:53:35 AM »
email testimony will be accepted until midnight tonight...

jc2721

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2024, 05:23:20 PM »
A couple of  testifiers will never, ever see any business from me

I believe that they were k*****g a** because they stand to make a lot of money from the "training" they offer.

Watch the testimony and learn for yourself who is pro-2a and who is not.

oldfart

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2024, 08:24:06 PM »
I emailed testimony yesterday and watched online this morning.  I was surprised at kit but I'm not sure if I understand everything he said. Will go take another look at the feed if available.

Overall, I am unhappy with this whole situation, so if Josh Green is monitoring this discussion, I have this to say...

Josh Green-
It's stuff like this that makes people want to move away from Hawaii. Most of my own family and in-laws have moved. A lot of my retired friends have moved. I have to travel 2700 miles to hug my grandchildren.  Governors are supposed to be smart. Why don't you catch the hint?

---end of rant----
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2024, 09:17:36 PM »
You know the part where it says the Chief will use all information provided and any other information available to make the final determination as to whether he will grant an applicant a CCW license or not.

So does that mean he can enlist the services of a Korean mama-san fortune teller?

Or can he just go eenie meenee minee moe.?
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: Chiefs rules meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am HPD HQ Beretania
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2024, 09:22:53 PM »
You know the part where it says the Chief will use all information provided and any other information available to make the final determination as to whether he will grant an applicant a CCW license or not.

So does that mean he can enlist the services of a Korean mama-san fortune teller?

Or can he just go eenie meenee minee moe.?
It means the chief makes his own rules about his rules.

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