This very intersection that is being shown.  HPD used to pull over dozens and dozens of cars who purposely blocked the intersection and gave tickets to each and every one of them.  Daily.

What happened?  Less manpower?  Gentler, kinder, more liberal rules?  Kumbaya mentality?

More donut shops opening all over the island?  (ooh.  this one hit below the belt.)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-drivers-are-blocking-intersections-what-s-hpd-doing/ar-BB1iaAd7?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=758afe010f6b42c0a05126a094bf659c&ei=57

Interesting problem for Oahu.
I was taught and learned how to drive in
Los Angeles traffic.
That being a far more primitive culture( but very diverse) you risked
personal and/or vehicular injury if you did not show
respect for other drivers,
regardless of what the cops do.
 
You did not block intersections!
Even the fire trucks will push you out of the way.
Nobody will say or see anything.
 

Hard to believe she went to any school in Compton.
Over in Paramount where I lived they shot on sight anybody from Compton
in Paramount after dark.
Compton was mostly black back then.
I tried to get a job in a cabinet shop in Compton.
Manager agreed I was more than qualified, but
he feared for my safety as I'm a white man.
Would not hire me.
 
I went to Wilmington district of LA and built boats.

The biggest problem is our roads suck, and people believe if 10 people in front of them are disobeying traffic laws, it's safe for them to do it, too.

I was going to a Christmas Party at Aloha Tower once, and it took me 2 hours from the H-1 Waikiki exit.  Luckily my date lived really close to there, so i made it past the major headache areas saving her from dealing with it.

As I went towards the Convention Center, every single intersection was blocked by people trying to use the back streets to jump a couple of blocks further ahead.  They'd get to Kalakaua, which was grid locked, then when the light changed for them to go, cars would follow each other into the intersection even after the light turned red knowing the cars with the green would have to let them continue making their turn.  That went on intersection after intersection.

Aloha?  Wait until people are late for a holiday party or trying to get home after a long workday. 

The biggest problem is our roads suck, and people believe if 10 people in front of them are disobeying traffic laws, it's safe for them to do it, too.

I was going to a Christmas Party at Aloha Tower once, and it took me 2 hours from the H-1 Waikiki exit.  Luckily my date lived really close to there, so i made it past the major headache areas saving her from dealing with it.

As I went towards the Convention Center, every single intersection was blocked by people trying to use the back streets to jump a couple of blocks further ahead.  They'd get to Kalakaua, which was grid locked, then when the light changed for them to go, cars would follow each other into the intersection even after the light turned red knowing the cars with the green would have to let them continue making their turn.  That went on intersection after intersection.

Aloha?  Wait until people are late for a holiday party or trying to get home after a long workday.

So I've been told by others our roads suck due to the salt air and humidity. I tell them that's BS. Taiwan has no pot holes like how HI does. Taiwan is more humid and they too are an island.  We saw them doing road repair once and by the time we walked by them at the end of the day, they were done. To be fair, IDK when they began, but you get the point I'm trying to make. 

So I've been told by others our roads suck due to the salt air and humidity. I tell them that's BS. Taiwan has no pot holes like how HI does. Taiwan is more humid and they too are an island.  We saw them doing road repair once and by the time we walked by them at the end of the day, they were done. To be fair, IDK when they began, but you get the point I'm trying to make.

I had to pry it out of a retired road crew guy but yeah, they make the roads sheddy on purpose for job security

The biggest problem is our roads suck, and people believe if 10 people in front of them are disobeying traffic laws, it's safe for them to do it, too.

I was going to a Christmas Party at Aloha Tower once, and it took me 2 hours from the H-1 Waikiki exit.  Luckily my date lived really close to there, so i made it past the major headache areas saving her from dealing with it.

As I went towards the Convention Center, every single intersection was blocked by people trying to use the back streets to jump a couple of blocks further ahead.  They'd get to Kalakaua, which was grid locked, then when the light changed for them to go, cars would follow each other into the intersection even after the light turned red knowing the cars with the green would have to let them continue making their turn.  That went on intersection after intersection.

Aloha?  Wait until people are late for a holiday party or trying to get home after a long workday.

The roads here don't suck so much as the drivers.
I used to drive the old Saddle road at 80 mph
Can't do that on the new one as the cops now patrol it.
I own 4WD drive vehicles only and many are twenty and more years old.
Your problem is bad drivers.
You yuppie guys buy these fancy cars that aren't suitable for where you live.
That is YOUR problem.
I've seen new corvettes in Hilo,  even a Ferrari.  Those guys are idiots.
There is another thread on the site where someone is trying to get input on whether
to buy a Nissan or Toyota truck. He at least is somewhat
thinking Hawaiian Island style.
Don't ever expect mainland big city quality roads
on the islands, Y'all just don't have the population or money for it.
Buy accordingly.

I had to pry it out of a retired road crew guy but yeah, they make the roads sheddy on purpose for job security

And they must donate toward reelections.  If I were in charge and the same spot began falling apart, I wouldn't rehire.  Or at least put in a warranty clause that the contractor has to fix it free of charge after  X years.

I met a guy from Alaska years ago and he asked why there's metal plates on the road (Kapiolani Blvd). He said in AK, that's BS. In AK, there's no need to cover the hole. A crew is on site working until the job is done.

I had to pry it out of a retired road crew guy but yeah, they make the roads sheddy on purpose for job security

You see that from the so called Hawaii licensed PE civil engineers on down.
Hawaii's PE licensing system is a joke.
 

I had to pry it out of a retired road crew guy but yeah, they make the roads sheddy on purpose for job security

I also was told the same thing.  Mainland contractors make fun about Hawaii contractors, saying they don't know how to build roads.  Truth is they do.  But they won't.

The roads here don't suck so much as the drivers.
I used to drive the old Saddle road at 80 mph
Can't do that on the new one as the cops now patrol it.
I own 4WD drive vehicles only and many are twenty and more years old.
Your problem is bad drivers.
You yuppie guys buy these fancy cars that aren't suitable for where you live.
That is YOUR problem.
I've seen new corvettes in Hilo,  even a Ferrari.  Those guys are idiots.
There is another thread on the site where someone is trying to get input on whether
to buy a Nissan or Toyota truck. He at least is somewhat
thinking Hawaiian Island style.
Don't ever expect mainland big city quality roads
on the islands, Y'all just don't have the population or money for it.
Buy accordingly.

It's not that they don't know how to drive or can't drive.  it's that the rules have no meaning for way too many.  how many use the HOV lanes when they know they shouldn't?  Speed?  Make a left turn out of a parking lot with 3 signs saying "NO LEFT TURN"?  Take an exit by crossing over the white diagonal hash lines even when they were in the correct lane to exit -- like it snuck up on them?

Not sure if that's what you call "bad drivers."  I think most of it is intentional even though they know better.

It's not that they don't know how to drive or can't drive.  it's that the rules have no meaning for way too many.  how many use the HOV lanes when they know they shouldn't?  Speed?  Make a left turn out of a parking lot with 3 signs saying "NO LEFT TURN"?  Take an exit by crossing over the white diagonal hash lines even when they were in the correct lane to exit -- like it snuck up on them?

Not sure if that's what you call "bad drivers."  I think most of it is intentional even though they know better.

In my family I have a long standing joke about road lines or parking lines in Hawaii
" they are merely suggestions".
I don't pay much attention to Hawaii laws, but I do pay attention to safety of me and everybody else.
 

In my family I have a long standing joke about road lines or parking lines in Hawaii
" they are merely suggestions".
I don't pay much attention to Hawaii laws, but I do pay attention to safety of me and everybody else.
 

That pretty much sums up what I said; it's intentional decision-making, not ignorance.

The vast majority of traffic laws and standards are intended to try and get everyone on the same page -- so when you get to a busy intersection, everyone knows when it's their turn.

There's been talk in some states about putting driver's ed back in high schools.  Right now, if under 18, most states require completion of a driving course.  That often costs hundreds of out-of-pocket dollars per driver.  Think about a family with 3 or 4 kids all within 4-5 years of each others. 

But, anyone can take the super-easy written test, pass the driving portion with the bare minimum score, and not have had a day of professional driver's training as long as they are over 18.  The number of young people not knowing the rules of the road or being taught how to survive in inclement weather or other adverse conditions has been on the rise -- as have the stats of young drivers getting into wrecks and killing themselves and others.

Operating a vehicle isn't extraordinarily complicated, but learning all the rules and developing good driving skills can be.