Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting (Read 15350 times)

macsak

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #140 on: May 23, 2024, 02:25:38 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #141 on: May 23, 2024, 02:32:24 PM »
Palestinians are basically like crazy homeless people. You wouldn't want them in your neighborhood.

Most of the Arab countries exist in a uneasy balance where the leadership could be overthrown by admitting the Palestinians.  For example Egypt exists on the fine line  with half the population supporting the current administration which is peaceful, modern, and stable and the other half are militant radicals that want strict Islam.  Hamas is related to the Muslim Brotherhood that took over Egypt in 2011 and was kicked out a few years later.  That could happen again if they admit Palestinians who would have majority rule.

Gaza actually belongs to Egypt, but Egypt doesn't want it back for that reason.

The fact that Egypt isn't allowing Palestinians in or any other near by country isn't welcoming  them in says it all.  Compare this to Ukraine refugees, many EU countries peoples welcomed them at the train stations and airports. They held signs with pictures to show who they can take in since there's a language barrier.

hvybarrels

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #142 on: May 23, 2024, 03:03:03 PM »
Define what you think apartheid is.

So, unless you can show how Gaza and the Palestinians are under the Israeli government, and how the government discriminates among its citizens based on race or ethnicity, then the use of the word apartheid doesn't have any applicability in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Just tossing around terms you merely THINK apply shows how biased you might be.


That's precisely what's going on. Otherwise why would Israel so vehemently oppose a two-state solution?

I don't have a dog in this fight other than my tax money is fueling this mess. On the other hand your bias seems to be solidly pro-intervention no matter the conflict or how many military disasters our nation stumbles in to.

Maybe take a look at all the wars you supported in the past and calculate the percentage of how often you turned out to be completely mislead by deep state propaganda?
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zippz

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #143 on: May 23, 2024, 04:17:41 PM »

That's precisely what's going on. Otherwise why would Israel so vehemently oppose a two-state solution?

I don't have a dog in this fight other than my tax money is fueling this mess. On the other hand your bias seems to be solidly pro-intervention no matter the conflict or how many military disasters our nation stumbles in to.

Maybe take a look at all the wars you supported in the past and calculate the percentage of how often you turned out to be completely mislead by deep state propaganda?

Israel has no incentive right now to create a two state solution against a potential nation at war with them.  Here's one example.  Currently they are blockaded from acquiring weapons.  This prevents them from getting advanced missiles and arms so they only have basic small arms and crappy home-built rockets.  Becoming a nation, Palestine has more autonomy and power and would be harder to blockade.  When Iran acquires nuclear weapons, I imagine some of them will go to Syria and Gaza. 

hvybarrels

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #144 on: May 23, 2024, 04:33:50 PM »
When Iran acquires nuclear weapons, I imagine some of them will go to Syria and Gaza.

That's a great point. Maybe we should stop funding both sides of the conflict.

https://shafaq.com/en/Report/US-administration-unblocks-10-billion-dollars-in-frozen-Iranian-funds
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #145 on: May 23, 2024, 07:04:04 PM »
That's a great point. Maybe we should stop funding both sides of the conflict.

https://shafaq.com/en/Report/US-administration-unblocks-10-billion-dollars-in-frozen-Iranian-funds

Maybe Biden will add that to his list of things to do after his nap and afternoon ice cream cone.

Somehow you seem tho think just speaking your wishes on here mean anything to the people you believe caused the problem.

Maybe Palestine could start by not attacking Israel?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #146 on: May 23, 2024, 07:20:55 PM »
Maybe Biden will add that to his list of things to do after his nap and afternoon ice cream cone.

Somehow you seem tho think just speaking your wishes on here mean anything to the people you believe caused the problem.

Maybe Palestine could start by not attacking Israel?

I'm simply pointing out that decades of unquestioning "Duhhh...I support the War!" is why our economy is destroyed and we have a bunch of angry kids with worthless degrees ripe for radicalization parading down the street this Saturday.

Mock them if you want, but your pension depends on the same failing system.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Pro-Palestine protesters don't know why they are protesting
« Reply #147 on: May 24, 2024, 12:04:05 AM »
I'm simply pointing out that decades of unquestioning "Duhhh...I support the War!" is why our economy is destroyed and we have a bunch of angry kids with worthless degrees ripe for radicalization parading down the street this Saturday.

Mock them if you want, but your pension depends on the same failing system.

You keep deflecting back and forth between US funding/support and Genocide-Apartheid-Dead_Civilians-Etc.

Each time I try to ask you about one, you deflect to the other.

It's annoying.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

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