Senate Bill 2128 to reduce poaching by forfeiting equipment used in illegal hunting

And

Senate Bill 2130 to increase land available
For hunting

http://Https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2128&year=2026

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2130&year=2026

Testimony due b Feb 8, 1 PM

Seizing cars sounds like something very agenda 2030

Like if you go hiking with a pocket knife and a dog and follow the wrong trail they can take your ride?

Once they start doing stuff like this it expands to other things until we are all trapped in 15 minute cities run by pedophile overlords.

Seizing cars sounds like something very agenda 2030

Like if you go hiking with a pocket knife and a dog and follow the wrong trail they can take your ride?

Once they start doing stuff like this it expands to other things until we are all trapped in 15 minute cities run by pedophile overlords.

Unless we eat them first.

Corrected link:

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2128&year=2026
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This is Civil Asset Forfeiture applied to gun owners who hunt. 

If they can prove poaching, there are already punishments for that like restitution, fines and incarceration.

This is intended to short-circuit the fine process and make the amount of the fine equal the value of one's car, truck, and/or firearms not based on the severity of the infraction.

Another money grab by the state's greedy government.

if this is like the process used to seize cash from travelers, most of whom are never even charged with a crime, it becomes a situation where it's often more expensive to fight for the return of your property than the property is worth.

Provides that any firearm or motor vehicle possessed and used by a person
who hunts on private land without the permission of the owner or occupier of
the land shall be forfeited to the State in accordance with chapter 712A, HRS.

Well, certainly there are different perspectives.  I live in a rural area, and the nighttime poachers are unreal.  One of my neighbors has had her house shot a couple times, with one of the bullets lodging in her mattress.  Another stray rifle bullet killed a man driving his family to Kihei a couple years ago.  Unsolved, naturally.  The paying of a bounty on Axis deer tails has made it worse, as now there is a profit incentive as well.  The police, and DLNR, are spread thin, so only the risk of a significant deterrent can get people to back off and be safe and legal.  Most mainland states have been doing this to deter poaching as well.  But, I guess Honolulu is different.

Well, certainly there are different perspectives.  I live in a rural area, and the nighttime poachers are unreal.  One of my neighbors has had her house shot a couple times, with one of the bullets lodging in her mattress.  Another stray rifle bullet killed a man driving his family to Kihei a couple years ago.  Unsolved, naturally.  The paying of a bounty on Axis deer tails has made it worse, as now there is a profit incentive as well.  The police, and DLNR, are spread thin, so only the risk of a significant deterrent can get people to back off and be safe and legal.  Most mainland states have been doing this to deter poaching as well.  But, I guess Honolulu is different.

Unless someone turns them in, it sounds like there's little chance of holding a significant number of them accountable.  Piling onto the list of penalties won't matter if they mostly go unidentified.