HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows (Read 8303 times)

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Assault Rifle? What I have here is an Anti-Assault Rifle.
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clshade

Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 01:43:40 PM »
This one is fast tracked.

Introduced 1/24
Sent to committee 1/24

Hearing scheduled for 2/7 on 2/4 - allowing for all of 2 days to prepare testimony for submission by the 24 hour deadline.

Passed unanimously by the committee with one member excused.

All testimony for the bill was from civil defense types. What little testimony there was from anyone else who caught this bill was in opposition.

The civil defense guys want this for some reason. I'm guessing that it funnels more money into their coffers.

And I'm guessing that is a good thing. While we may not have a serious threat from terrorists, using it as an excuse to create tighter unity between the various civil defense services isn't a terrible thing. Hawaii's civil defense is second to none in the world and if they want tighter inter-agency integration, which is what a DHS does, then I'd be inclined to agree with them. It might not be the best thing to do but I don't know that it is a wrong thing to do.

DuckFat

Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 01:55:56 PM »
So the State DHS would stand for Da Hawaiian Souljahs and have MP's (Moke Patrol) working the FCU (False Crack Unit)?

I have no idea how my brain went off on that tangent, Teddy's burgers are too big, food coma time.
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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 10:33:19 AM »
Everytime the GOV. is expanded, it WILL be used against us citizens. That is their nature-on either side of the political coin. This is NOT a good thing. I have family, a senior pastor that were put in internment camps during WWII. I have family whose guns were confiscated twice in these islands. Once during the overthrow and once after Pearl Harbor. The Gov. is no longer FOR the people. It will create an elite block of people who will rule the rest. Sorry I missed this one. This is not good. Dang !!!

clshade

Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2013, 11:04:59 AM »
Yes, those evil guys who fix the bridges and electrical lines after an emergency are taking over. Soon they will be wantonly stopping traffic for all manner of frivolous repairs and inhibiting our freedoms. Worse, the police and fire departments will actually be able to work together seamlessly to further heinously force their leftist agenda of providing services to the public. Now, instead of having several heads of departments we shall have one Overlord, a supreme dictator of Civil Defense who will rule emergency responses with an iron fist...

lippy laroux

Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2013, 11:45:10 AM »
Everytime the GOV. is expanded, it WILL be used against us citizens. That is their nature-on either side of the political coin. This is NOT a good thing. I have family, a senior pastor that were put in internment camps during WWII. I have family whose guns were confiscated twice in these islands. Once during the overthrow and once after Pearl Harbor. The Gov. is no longer FOR the people. It will create an elite block of people who will rule the rest. Sorry I missed this one. This is not good. Dang !!!

The Prewar Japanese American and their families are a very large constituency here in HI and are ripe for bringing them behind our 2A protection efforts.  We need someone from that community to do some Political outreach on our behalf.

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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2013, 01:23:09 PM »
clshade. The Gov. does do good things with more authority, no question. But the rest???All you have stated shouldve been done WITHOUT MORE GOVERNMENT!!! We cannot afford more Govt. Fiscally or otherwise. Less Govt. More citizen.

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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2013, 01:28:47 PM »
lippy laroux. I do what I can. Sarcasm from the likes of clshade doesnt help. Make no mistake. We are an enemy in our own country. And every expansion of Gov. WILL be used against us. The internees and their immediate children know all to well the pains of more Govt. Its the 3rd generation and 4th I am working on. 1st getting them to vote. 2nd, getting them to understand expanding Gov. is costly and NEVER gets smaller. 3rd.... guns are good, gun people are good.

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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2013, 05:20:05 PM »
Mexico wants a registry of U.S. gun owners
Will ask the U.S. Senate to create a registry of all commercialized firearms in border states
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/mexico-wants-a-registry-of-u-s-gun-owners-2/#eIuJOlIJwdPxraY8.99

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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 05:29:43 PM »
Dems Sponsor Bill To Violate Fourth Amendment Rights Of Gun Owners

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    In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person possessing shall … safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to ensure compliance with this subsection.


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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 05:31:53 PM »
Mexico wants a registry of U.S. gun owners
Will ask the U.S. Senate to create a registry of all commercialized firearms in border states
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/mexico-wants-a-registry-of-u-s-gun-owners-2/#eIuJOlIJwdPxraY8.99
No way should that ever be provided and in Arizona I believe the state doesn't even require registration, but another country is completely insane. ???

bass monkey

Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 08:21:49 PM »
Yes, those evil guys who fix the bridges and electrical lines after an emergency are taking over. Soon they will be wantonly stopping traffic for all manner of frivolous repairs and inhibiting our freedoms. Worse, the police and fire departments will actually be able to work together seamlessly to further heinously force their leftist agenda of providing services to the public. Now, instead of having several heads of departments we shall have one Overlord, a supreme dictator of Civil Defense who will rule emergency responses with an iron fist...


Sounds like NY, I think it was, where people were throwing rocks at the repair guys fixing lines and whatnot. Ended up they couldn't work.

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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2013, 05:18:11 PM »
DHS Supplier Sells Targets of American Gun Owners

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Re: HB850 - State Dept. of Homeland Security - the police state grows
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 05:20:59 PM »
DHS Supplier Sells Targets of American Gun Owners
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